Had a look at the CAA stats for may 06 and if I have read them right GSM had the best load factors of all the UK airlines at 87% and carried more pax that Tfly.

Have a look at the link.


http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airline...ices_Table.pdf

Although it is the norm to common-rate 757/767 pilots, Thomsonfly have been experimenting with dual-rating pilots at smaller bases between the 737 and 757. Where they have one 737 and one 757 (I think Cardiff was the example used), the savings from needing a smaller crew establishment versus the increased training and recurrent costs make it worthwhile. Wouldn't be surprised if more operators started to do this, and with Globespan's increasing number of bases and fleet now split between 737, 757 and 767, it might make sense for them.

Pretty much - you still need to do a differences course though to get 757/767 dual endorsement and I think you can then maintain currency on both by doing alternate sim checks (757-767-757-767....), no need to actually fly both types regularly.

Another two routes launched from GLA for W06:

Direct to Barbados & Las Vegas. Barbados weekly and Las Vegas 2 weekly.

Nice, looking forward to my weeks in Barbados over the winter.

if there offering 3 class service on tthe gla sfb/bgi/las man/cpt maybe on the lpl/ewr i take it a third 767 is coming, maybe i missed it. are they getting more 767,s as someone said there looking at more longhaul from man..

A third 767 is coming 2007 a full list of aircraft can be found here:

http://www.jethros.i12.com/fleets/fl...yglobespan.htm

I am just wondering how Globespan will crew a weekly flight to Barbados. The distance looks a bit long to do in one shift - GLA-BGI-GLA - do the crew get a weeks lay over? Would they dead head up to Orlando?

Re crewing for BGI....would have thought that it would be lower cost to have the crew stay for the week in hotac rather than all the combined costs of positioning 11 crew from BGI to Florida.

Would imagine that GSM will have a deal with one of the hotels which will feature in the BGI packages. Although I could be wrong....fingers crossed for the week though.

....or block off enough seats down the back and position home. Maybe a crew will have positioned from Orlando to BGI to operate to GLA.

Not CC myself, but was told by a friend in GSM long haul that there are duty restrictions which mean they can't position back to GLA on the same flight. Still, a week's layover on a "Low Cost" carrier? Weird.

Maybe they got a contract with a charter carrier to bring the crew back to GLA?

Or another more obvious one, they may announce another BGI service from another UK airport, each crew would stay only a few days.

XSB

Could only position back after minimum rest, as rest onboard an a/c is not counted as rest.

However XSB you could very well be right about another BGI service from say STN or MAN....don't see it happening for this winter but if the route proves to be a succuss then im sure that would be a possibility.

Has anyone heard of any new routes being proposed from Manchester? It all appears to be happening up in Glasgow....

Summer 07 Released
 

Gla-alc/bcn/pmi Daily
Edi-alc/bcn/pmi Daily

Most of the usual Routes are Due To Be Released This Week.

I would imagine when the 3rd 767 arrives sometime in spring this might be used from both GLA and MAN or even STN.....not known yet but will be interesting to see what happens.

flyglobespan
 

someone must have insider news for GSM at stansted
I had heard that newyork was going to be as many a twice daily
from next summer ? come on just give us a clue !

I'm sure they'd be able to position straight away thought the rule was that you can have limited positioning before a flight (as long as it doesn't send you into discretion) but after the company can position you around the world? That right or have I got the wrong end of the stick? Plus MON used to (not sure if they still do) operate to Banjul then position back. The BGI flight would only be a few hours longer than that .

No reason why you can't position back after a flight (unless some local agreement doesn't allow it). Your max Flight duty period stops at on chocks. You can then be positioned regardless of the hours. The only proviso is that you then require a rest period as long as the preceeding duty period inc positioning.

GSM and the future
 

Taken from Wikipedia

" n June 2006 Flyglobespan announced plans to operate out of Aberdeen International Airport now that 24 hour airport operation there has been confirmed. The first route to operate from Aberdeen will be to Tenerife, commencing winter 2006. It has yet to announce further routes. Liverpool will also be added to the Flyglobespan network from November 2006, with flights to Tenerife and Prague. The airline will also operate Liverpool's first long haul flight, to New York (Newark), using Boeing 757-200 aircraft, daily from May 2007.
Flights to Toronto, Canada from Manchester are due to commence in November, with two of the three weekly flights operated by Zoom Airlines, in accordance with a new codeshare deal between the two airlines. Zoom flights from Toronto to Belfast, Cardiff, Glasgow, London Gatwick, London Stansted and Manchester are already available for booking on the Flyglobespan website, as well as Ottawa to London Gatwick. It will also commence three times a week service Manchester to Cape Town, South Africa on November 4, 2006. Both these Manchester services will be operated by a Boeing 767.
Flyglobespan will also launch Northern Ireland's first ever scheduled flights to Florida with a weekly service to Orlando Sanford from Belfast International Airport in November 2006.
Three further transatlantic flights from Glasgow have also been announced for 2007; to Barbados from January, Las Vegas from February and Boston, commencing in May of that year.
Flights from Durham Tees Valley Airport to Tenerife will launch in 2007.
In order to meet the expansion of the airline's network, a further used Boeing 767-300 and new Boeing 737-700 will be leased from the International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), while the airline's first Boeing 757 will also join the fleet for the Liverpool to Newark service. There are plans to lease a third 767, second 757 and a further two 737s.
Flyglobespan announced in August 2006 that it would also lease two Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner from the ILFC for ten years, to be delivered in March and November 2010. "

Yes all this info is widely known, what was your point?

Wikipedia- wot a hoot.
Anyone can add anything they like. Not the most reliable in my experience:bored:

Well in this case all the info seems to be spot on.

liverpool to newyork
 

does anybody know where flyglobespan are getting there 757 from for liverpool to new york next year

May not be a 757 but a 767 because they are flying a three-class configurated aircraft.

It's def going to be a 757, possibly wetlease Icelandair a/c at first and then proposed to operate 3 757's.

jetstream

is wetlease with there crew and flight deck

when are gsm getting there 75,s and where they coming from

please dont say excel, dont they have 3 there getting rid off...:*

My info is that as things stand, there is no requirement for B757's

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://jethros.i12.com

Jethro

MY information is that at least 1 B757 is coming. It will be two-class operating LPL-EWR-LPL and will be crewed by MAN B767 flight deck and cabin crew. The MAN based 767 will be operating MAN-CPT-MAN and will be the 2nd 'Big Boeing' to arrive due Sept/Oct 2006 with the B757 arriving Spring 2007 ready for the April launch of the EWR service.

Diesel'

Don't think it will be XLA's old machines as the 2 a/c destined to leave are only 104,326kg MTOM aircraft where as GSM will probably need 113,800kg machines as they maybe regularly going out at 79,500kg ZFW needing a full fuel load of 34,500kg to get to EWR with standard IFR reserves especially if the service is going to run year round with those notorious NY Area snowstorms.

:ok:

Liverpool/Newark
 

Why then are Globespan selling (and advertising the fact widely) seats in a three class configured aircraft (up until recently it was selling two classes only)?

They are also looking to fill vacancies at Liverpool with the line in the advert "All crew will be Manchester/Liverpool Dual Based operating on both B767 and B737 aircraft".

Just to confirm Liverpool to newyork is in three classes my relatives have booked business and premium economy in june next year .

So where ar ethey getting three class 757's from or could they be the existing 767 although jhon lennon airport states 757.:ugh:

steelybops
 

Jethro reckons that they will not go ahead with the 757.

Also, people who have booked can select their seat, ask you relative to go into the Globespan website and look at the set-up of the seating to see if its a 767 or not.

pontious, thanks for reply

think this is going to be interesting to see what aircraft they use.

with 3 classes been advertised you would think 767

but there only getting 3

1 x gla/sfb daily
1 x cpt 3 weekly only fri spare in the summer
1 x gla/las 2x week gla/ bgi 1x weekly

so the third 767 wont have enough time to do a daily new york from lpl

if that makes sense...

diesel 36

Manchester to Cape Town is a winter only rout and finishes on 15th April 2007 So that would realease a '767

on there website under timetables it states cape town summer 07..

diesel 36

What it actually says is Summer Timetable (April 2007)

If you open the timetable you will see that the last Cape Town to Manchester flight operates on 15th April 2007.

There will be 3 B767s and 2 B757s:

1 B767 will operate GLA-SFB daily based GLA
1 B757 looks like its operating LPL-EWR daily based LPL
2 B767 completely free just now - will have to wait and see what S07 brings

1 B757 free - S07 destinations to be announced.

GSM are releasing S07 schedule at the moment, so it won;t be long till we find out what these planes will be used for.

longhaul
 

I would have thought that stansted would get something
as the only summer flight is chambery and you cant even book it
the talk was that stansted would get upto 2 daily newyork flights
from GSM does anyone have any info ?

How financially "secure" are flyglobespan? The flights compared to other Loco airlines are priced at very low prices. Does this mean low bookings or genuine low fares. Especially last minute bookings. Tried to book for STN-ATH flying tomorrow for 1 week duration - £67 inc taxes!

av8767
 

av8767 not that cheap !
I hope you booked it as i have just looked at same route
flying tomorrow for 1 week and the price is £214 inc tax

Got to be kidding! Most of the time GSM are so expensive that I rule them out as an option altogether if I'm looking for flights to a destination they serve... I can only really comment on the prices from EDI and GLA but maybe that's down to their popularity here.
However, I get £214 for the flights you mention too, not only that but ATH-STN appears to be sold out until 5th September, I wouldn't call that low bookings or low fares!