high fares are good means flights almost full!!!! and the STN - ATH route has been a big success.....usually full everyday.

So is the 'MAN' 767 may be MAN based for the winter then LPL based for the summer?

Are they only looking for 3 767's- 1 MAN/LPL based, 1GLA based & 1 spare?

All their new longhaul destinations COULD be served by the 113 tonne 757's,initially. KBOS direct from the UK, KLAS, BGI (and SFB if needs must) via BGR just as AIH(MYT),AMM,MON all used to do the late 80's and early 90's.

Their Canadian destinations could be served by ZOOM as they already serve all GSM's Canadian programme. Until such a time as GSM want to take them over themselves...?

Interesting times ahead...

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The LPL flights will still be carried out by a B757, reconfigured for Premium service. See attached link. http://www.liverpooljohnlennonairpor...0&media_id=163

The B757 will be re-configured to give P-ECO seating.

The link to the Liverpool Airport press release does not mention an aircraft type, it just says that the route will now be offering three classes instead of two.

Thanks Gaz, that makes sense with a dedicated 767 serving the 'bread and butter' GLA-SFB route with the third unit on the 'non-daily' services while the 2nd covers MAN & LPL. I was originally told a future total fleet could be as large as 9 767's and 6 757's. No mention at that point of 787's though. I was told that the 767's will form the core of the long haul operations out of GLA,MAN and an unspecified base, whilst the 757's will serve key U.S. East Coast destinations from smaller UK regional airports. The latter strategy seems to work for AA and CO.

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can anyone tell me why you can not book chambery flights
out of stansted is it because they are all full or another
reason ?

not sure whats happening with the CMF not heard anything about it being dropped.

at this time chambery is only showing from EDI and has
vanished from STN on gsm website but BAA website
says starts 23dec the same as EDI

diesel36

Jethro reckons there are to be no 757's in the Globespan fleet, so what are they going to do the LPL/EWR in keeping in mind also the Globespan statement saying "operating on both B767 and B737 aircraft".

If you look on STN BAA website under flight
timetables the stansted-chambery service
only ops 30mar-13apr:confused:

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I must aggree with some others GSM are not a cheap airline to fly with, esp the second season GLA - SFB prices have raised a lot from the first year, I was looking forward to booking a SFB flight but they have simply outpriced themselves, when you are looking to book for a party of 12 pax, 7 adults + 5 kids, ( not that I expect the kid seats to be cheaper but it is 2 x pairs of adults that have to find the extra funds ) you have to look at the overall cost £2000.00 extra, is asking too much for loyalty just to fly/support your local airline.
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Stansted to Chambery AXED!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't look good for you guys at Globespan Stansted does it.

A bloody shame. I used them to go to TFS this year and they were bloody great!!!

CT

Couple of Queries - the flights to Las Vegas are shown as operating until April - does anyone know if these will become year round flights? For people who live in Oz/NZ, flying to Scotland through LAX/SFO on AirNZ and then connecting through LAS to GLA would be a nice way to avoid connecting at Heathrow ( and it would be a buzz for some of us to fly in the ex AirNZ 763s)


When the 787s arrive in the fleet, will they fly similar routings to the network that the 763s are developing now? - Caribbean, Florida, perhaps Mexico? Will 787s do unrestricted departures from Glasgow, to use the 8500mile range - flights to Asia, perhaps?

The flights to Las Vegas and Caribbean are basically for utilisation of aircraft due to downgrading of operations during the winter on the SFB route. I dont know it will become all year round flights but with the SFB flight not filling during certain weekdays they may change the route to 5 x weekly to SFB 1 x LAS & 1 x Caribbean, it is a tip toe on the routes if they become successful they may extend them with another ( 3rd ) 767 due in 07

The 787 that will be arriving in 2010 the market may have changed

according to the chairman of GSM He said: "We are looking at places like the Red Sea, North Africa, West Africa, the Caribbean and Mexico. New York, Boston, LA, Las Vegas and San Francisco all spring to mind."

read the full report here
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62446.html

on another article
''However, by next summer ( 07 ) it will have a fleet of 19 airliners with two more 767s, two more 757s and three more 737s. The extra planes, all Boeings and all leased, are worth more than £300m. A fleet of that size makes flyglobespan bigger than, say, Icelandair''

read the full report here
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62465.html

That all sounds good
but what about stansted they have just dropped chambery
and still no sign of longhaul ATH is doing well and so is TFS
I have to say the advertising in not good down here
and unless you know the airline and route you would'nt
even know the airline op from STN

Just picking up on this thread & it would seem to me that there is considerable work to be done to reach agreement with other carriers if the GSM concept of 'mini hub', or connecting with other carriers flights at more 'remote' locations, ie the fundamental pax. benefit of through check of baggage is to be achieved.
Without this, particularly in the current security concious environment, the concept is simply not practical !... which tends to undermine some of Dalrymple's earlier rhetoric such as taken from the (Glasgow) Herald :-
'The deal even raises the prospects of Scotland turning into a mini-hub between America and Europe, with people getting off flyglobespan transatlantic flights in Glasgow or Edinburgh and switching to its short hops to the continent'.
What progress has been achieved so far ?
Hmmmmm:confused:

LPL-PRG no longer appears bookable on the Flyglobespan website. Surely not another south of the border route dropped?

I can confirm that the Liverpool- Prague route has indeed been axed! I had a booking on this flight for DEC and just called reservations and was told all flight were cancelled due to "lack of interest". Never mind it looks like it will have to be JET2 from BLK as hotel is already booked

With regards to my above post. Is this why Globespan do not have a news section on their website as do other carriers so they do not have to officially announce new routes so they can back track on their decisions? Are Globespan making bad route decisions or just being cautious? I hope the latter for the sake of their future and employees.

One of the three flights per week on the MAN/Cape Town service has also disappeared.

Hi dwlpl, the Capetown starts 04 NOV twice weekly until 20th DEC when it starts 3 x weekly as planned.

av8767 beat me too it..

nice trips for the crew in nov early dec

As I have mentioned in the past...routes are always introduced with a trumpet and them withdrawn silently from the booking engine when they dont work... As my posts are always deleted by the powers that be and corrected by Webby 1919 who is responsible for GSM positive publicity this may not be here long. The airline business in far from philanthropic and GSM like anyone else will not sustain poor performing routes.....the growth is seeminly far too quick here....lets hope that Sir T of D doesnt get his fingers burnt!!

Blah, blah, blah!!! Same old, same old. Gatwicknose - you always seem to pop up when GSM have done something negative - I think Mr Ds way of thinking is commendable - he doesn't operate a route that is going to run at a loss! That makes very good business sense - i wouldn;t be surprised if this route is replaced by another short route such as Chambery from Liverpool. Missing the good points - GSM have launched great routes for the Scottish public, from Euro routes to Longhaul routes such as LAS and BGI.

I dint think GSM would have any problem with any route
if they advertised I dont know what its like up north but
down here in the south the only place I have see an add
is on the BAA website
I dont know who in incharge of advertising for GSM
but In my eyes they are not doing a very good job
of it

Wasn't LPL - PRG basically a filler to ensure good a/c utilisation? Any suggestions for possible alternative route, especially considering existing comp from FR & U2 there?

There is no comp from Ryanair or Easyjet on the LPL - PRG route, there will only be globespan operating it.

cwllpl, I was refering to LPL as a base, not specifically LPL - PRG. U2 & FR already have plenty of routes - there are always plenty of opportunities for expansion, but putting bums in seats will always be harder for an airline with little other presence there.

LPL to PRG didn't seem to make much sense on its own merits, considering that U2 hadn't previously bothered. As a route to maximise a/c usage, then there is more logic to it, but it seems that loads were poor.

So, would they face the same problem operating another such route from LPL? As a long shot, there is still no competition on LPL-LON. Can think of numerous problems with such a route, but might that be one destination that GSM would have no problem marketing?

question for you webby....

are you a current employee of GSM...just wondering....

I have no issues at all with TD he is a great businessman and has obviously found a niche for the scottish market... I have met him personally and spent time finding out what makes him tick. I just object to jingoistic posts..... in this case a route has been published and then stopped without explanation....previous posters are right....keep your public informed both positively and negatively.... its all well and good trumpeting new routes but you have to offer explanations when routes are canned...afterall Mr D thrives on publishing editorial on local press when he paunches a new service!!!

even webby would have to admit....quick to announce new things ...slightly slower to justify and announce failed routes?

Yes I am, and happen to think that GSM are very successful, maybe this is down to not operating/dropping routes that are not profitable. The whole reason any company exists is to make profit ... GSM are the same!! As said before, PRG was a filler route to utilise the A/C. I'm sure that GSM will be around for a long time to come but maybe not as a private company. If expansion is to go UK-wide, I'm sure Mr D will have to float the company, but stay as head of the Board.

"even webby would have to admit....quick to announce new things ...slightly slower to justify and announce failed routes?"

GN, what makes GSM different from anyone else in this respect? Airlines only make a song and dance about stopping routes if they think they can blame someone else - e.g. the airport for high charges, or the government for continuing un-needed PSOs etc.

Webby, what do you think will replace LPL-PRG?

so as an insider whats going to happen at STN and will
it be any time soon ?

Right on Webby! :ok: :ok: :ok:

I'm not sure about STN - there was talks of launching longhaul, but not until next Summer. As for LPL, as it is maybe a bit late in the day to launch a new route, but time will tell. I think CMF would be a proposed route for LPL.

If Fly Globespan are so good then why when they stop a route do they not notify the passengers booked on the service.

I was (or am as far as I am concerned) booked on the Liverpool to Prague service. I have tried to get through by phone (Long wait, given up). I have sent an e-mail as to whether the flight is cancelled and more importantly when do I get my money back (No reply).

Good scam, start a route, take the money, earn the interest, return the money after earning interest in bank or aiding cash flow.

ametyst

they do notify customers.

my mate was booked to go in dec and he got a phone call

said due to not enough interest it was been dropped

heres your refund... apologies

think they have done enough as far as he is concerned..

Thanks Diesel 36

However, all passengers should be informed not some passengers.

when were you going

if after dec then you may be in the next lot to be told

if before dec then yes they should have told you.

Booked on first flight on 3rd November

would have thought you would have been informed by know

my mate got told a couple of days ago

maybe they just missed you. sure they will get back to you.

hope you get it sorted....