Don't really want to go on too much about TCX on a GSM thread, but I'd be amazed if either GSM or TCX offered 35 inch pitch in 'cattle' / 'Y'. You won't normally find many of the regular scheduled airlines operating across 'the pond' offering > 32 inches, i.e. BA, AA 31 inches.
I can't see that even with the intended 189 pax config. will result in a universal 35 inch pitch, more likely just in a smaller premium section & 31 inches in the remaining section.
Incidentally PTV systems in BA for example are mounted under the seats, and even on BA in 'Y' the seats and any comfort compromise is minimal, and still better than current IT offerings.

skyman771

TCX have operated Boeing 757-200 to eastern canada for the last few years with 187 seat in an all economy layout, all seats have a 35" seat pitch.
I believe that the GSM flights are going to be 3 class so i doubt they will have the 35" seat pitch in Y.

Yep 'tis true.

35 inches in 'Y' on TCX. 187 seats though, not 189. I know 'cause I fly it.

Cheers

ACA

It seems that GSMs config for longhaul works best - with No-Frills/Premium Upgrade/Business classes - maybe more profitable if there is a Bus class. I'm sure they'll do well.

Business class has proven to be very popular on GLA - SFB route, also alot of American pax using the Business service too.

Toronto's landing charges are known to be huge and IATA are forever moaning about them. If globespan can make a go of it GTAA will be shuddering as they are in the middle of enormous terminal construction and suffering reduced shop sales due to carry-on rules.

Hamilton's historic problem for a lot of routes is that once people get on the QEW to go there they might keep going to Buffalo, but that's not a problem on UK/Ireland routes. NW's rumoured TA 757s ex DTW would also be an issue for catchment in the area southwest of HAM.

Uk Website Updated
 

UK Site updated now for S07:

GLA-YHM - daily - B757-200

GLA-YVR - twice weekly - B767-300

GLA-YYC - weekly - B767-300

MAN-YVR - twice weekly - B767-300

MAN-YYC - weekly - B767-300

LGW-YVR - 3 weekly - B767-300

LGW-YYC - weekly - B767-300

All flights operated with GSM own A/c

There is a news item thats saying that FlyGlobespan is thinking af switching its yet-to-be-launched Liverpool to New York-Newark flight to serve New York JFK airport.

Must be a strong possibility if this has been made public.

Its a pity GSM doesnt start DUB-YYZ, or YVR! Theres a large amount of Irish in Vancouver, and a lot of tourists from Canada and Ireland visiting both sides! Maybe if we had open skies with Canada it would happen!!!!:ugh:

I thought GSM were due to announce DUB/SNN-YHM today?

johnrizzo

see my post above. GSM have obviously got a sweet deal from YHM.

They got an offer from BAA they couldn't refuse:=

how true is this ,where has this been made public ?

I hope your wrong I've booked my US internal flights back to EWR to meet them.

And the problem with that is...?
Just as PIK gave FR a deal to move from GLA to PIK.
Seems good business sense rather than conspiracy theories.
Tom Dalrymple seems to know what hes doing and know where the demand and facilities are with his massive long haul expansion from GLA.:rolleyes:

GW76 said-
"Just as PIK gave FR a deal to move from GLA to PIK":confused:
If my old memory serves me correctly FR stopped using GLA around 1988 and started at PIK in May 94 hardly a "move".
Not only is this statement irrelevant to the thread but pretty much everything else as well:ugh:

Voldermort

So irrelevant that youve continued to comment on it:confused:
The comparison between airlines choosing between GLA and PIK just as GSM did (thread about GSM incase youve missed it ) is entirely relevant. You are obviously missing the point.
Perhaps not a move from GLA , but certainly an informed choice between the two when Scottish ops were planned. It is a fact that PIK much cheaper landing fees.:rolleyes:

Joe made a simple statement of fact. There was no comment. I think all the 'conspiracy' is coming from your end.

On the GSM website it lists many places as having service to Toronto (Hamilton). GLA and CWL just have Toronto, so will some cities have YYZ service, and others have Hamilton?

YYZ is this winter. YHM start next summer

It was said by Neil Pakey the Liverpool Airport Managing Director when picking up the ' Liverpool Director of the Year at the Institute of Directors' award last Thursday.

He said "The switch is under consideration. If they go ahead it is kind of neat that we would have JLA to JFK."

For the full article go to http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0...name_page.html

Any nearer knowing which routes GSM are going to launch from their proposed ABZ base next year? Any announcement imminent?

Ta.

Oh, thanks for clearing that up! I'm happy we will finally see GSM in Dublin! I hope we see further expansion from GSM in Dublin, and I hope their YHM route is succesful! When I first read the thread, I though it said Dublin-YHZ, and I thought they were crazy starting so many routes out of Halifax!:rolleyes:

GSM May 2007 Transatlantic so far ..... maybe !

Glasgow to Boston no frills + premium eco = 737-700/757 daily
Glasgow to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 daily
Glasgow to SFB no frills + premium eco + business = 767 daily
Glasgow to Calgary no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Friday
Glasgow to Vancouver no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Friday & Monday

London Stansted to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 daily

London Gatwick to Calgary no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Tuesday
London Gatwick to Vancouver no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Tuesday & Thursday & Sunday

Manchester to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + buisness = 757
Manchester to Calgary no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Wednesday
Manchester to Vancouver no frills + premium eco + business = 767 Wednesday & Saturday

Liverpool to Newark no frills + premium eco + business = 757/767 daily

1 Liverpool to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Monday
2 Doncaster to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Tuesday
3 Exeter to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Wednesday
4 Birmingham to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Thursday
5 Belfast, Shannon & Dublin to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Friday
6 Edinburgh to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Saturday
7 Newcastle to Hamilton no frills + premium eco + business = 757 Sunday

** GLA - BOS / LPL -EWR no seat pitch yet ( poss aircraft undecided )
fits with romoured
4 x 757 ( Hamilton flights green shared 757 aircraft indigo based 757)
3 x 767 ( in red is shared 767 aircraft blue is based 767 aircraft )
2 x 737-700 ( one for GLA - BOS possibly + one for ABZ - TFS & Eastern Med or Red Sea areas )

Afterdark

Do you also have the days or timings for the GLA-Las Vegas & GLA- BGI services?

Isn't the MAN-CPT 767 transferring to LPL for the S07 programme?

The 2nd 767 arrives mid October, what about the rest of the aircraft?

Are the 757's being operated on a damp lease?

:ok:

The LPL-EWR/JFK is operated on a B757-200!! The GLA-BOS is operated on B738.

As for the ABZ shorthaul flights, I've heard the usual destinations: ALC/AGP/PRG/BCN/TFS/PFO/FAO/PMI

Will have to wait and see - should be out shortly.

Are they setting up a base in Aberdeen, or just commuting to/from there?

A small base will open up for ABZ - a 1-aircraft base - B737-700.

What is the real advantage of JFK over EWR? Both have fairly similar two-staged ground transfers, JFK doesn't have the out-of-state taxi fares, but would that be enough of a reason?

Or - is this tie up which TD mentioned before when launching the Boston route going to be with a certain blue airline which has a presence at JFK and BOS?

I also heard that Mr D was looking at code-share and onward transfers for the BOS route, so that may tie up with his plans.

Not wanting to be rude...but I doubt very much whether a certain Blue airline would be interested in such an association...they do pretty well unassisted

Now firstly im not knocking GSM in anyway, but i really cant see two flights operating to Toronto from Exeter working, albeit to YHM with GSM and Air Transat have there YYZ flight (which Globespan have nothing to do with now). Is there really the demand for a Boeing 757 and an Airbus A310 on this route from the southwest, also both of them operating on a wednesday.

Not just EXT i suppose, theres going to be alot of flights operating to Toronto area next year.

4 airlines on GLA-TORONTO - GSM, TS, OOM, TCX
6 airlines on LON -TORONTO - AC, BA, TS, OOM, TCX, GSM
3 airlines on BHX - TORONTO - TS, GSM, AI
4 airlines on MAN - TORONTO - TS, OOM, TCX, AC, GSM.

The GSM flight is one day a week from exeter using a B757 this flight starts at stansted so most of the seat I guess will be sold to STN pax.
I dont see the problem at exeter being as big as you make out .

All of the Hamilton flts have been released for sale on the GSM website today with timing details.

Zoom will flourish with that kind of suppport GAZ but Jetblue??? They make excellent profits and have been non alligned for quite a while so cant see the virtue from their point of view... However if webby is in the house today this simply proves that far from being altruistic the whole thing is in place to make money...dispite what the press are told.

Ahem Gatwicknose

I'm here. There are rumours about JetBlue but I don't know if it'll happen. But I am certain that Mr D will more than likely keep looking for a code-share partner for connections from BOS onwards, it's bound to come sooner or later. No-one saw YHM coming!!! Will just have to wait and see. There are also rumours of a 4th B767 coming for S07 due to the increased expansion.

Where do you think they will base the 4th 767. Any goss on the routes. I heard Los Angeles was on the cards.

There is also the possibility of the Red Sea, more South African destinations, LAX and SFO. Sydney is the destination that Mr D wants GSM to operate from GLA.

Just back from SFB trip and was told on that by the Capt that 2nd 763 coming 22 October, 3rd 763 in service for Spring 2007 and 4th by Summer 2007. more than likely from NZ.

Daz
Think I'll side with Goldeneye on this one.With a one stop each way for STN pax & if other flights through smaller stations are routed in the same way ,i.e. to STN,then surely the higher yield will be generated by the non stop (EXT) sectors, especially if STN can offer a choice of days to fly to Toronto .Thus ,the allocation of seats would be greater for EXT both on the grounds of yield & lack of frequency.The question seems to be as Goldeneye put it "Is there room for the 2 services?"
Another interesting aspect will be pax checking in for two airlines offering multi class service to two different Toronto airports alongside each other at the same time given that EXT has a MAX of 6 check in desks to contain this total operation.(Assuming there is no further clash with any other operator on the Wednesday)

It will be fantastic if GSM does come to SYD (and other cities in Australia and NZ - there are more cities than just SYD). GSM would want to find a couple of 777s to fly non-stop from GLA/STN to an Asian transfer point. Then put the pax onto a like minded Australian/Kiwi carrier to get them to their final destination.

(Is anyone good with a paintbox, to do an artists impression of a 777 in GSM colours?)