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Going up against BA on LHR-NCL appears to be the height of stupidity, and BA/EI on LHR-BHD and BA/KL on LHR-AMS. Flybe is not British Midland. BE is more suited to thin routes (the aircraft in use is a clue). Would it not be better to link LHR to cities without an existing service such as LBA, LPL, MME, etc.? That said, it would be necessary to heavily advertise these services and relentlessly promote these as a non-stop to the Thames Valley and one-stop connection to the world. There are no direct train services to Heathrow from most of the country. This would be a better use of LHR slots.
Are you Liverpool Airport's marketing director? You give that impression in every post you make.
One of the lost opportunities of HS2 is not to build the Heathrow Spur, which would have given direct rail access to many places. Easyjet this year is offering an extremely poor service from Liverpool to Amsterdam. normally 3 or 4 per day, this year 1, so very short of capacity. Strikes me an opportunity for Flybe.

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Thats not the case. Its their oldest route and always busy. There's more to it.

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I am not sure Ozzy how you think 1 per day is a good service , when 3 per day is the norm, it does not serve the city well enough. ( pre covid 237,867 flew the route ). I will ignore your snide comment, I am a passenger therefore I have an opinion.

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It's a two way thing - enough people need to pay to fly for the airline to afford to operate the service. Airlines don't walk away from services because they are making too much money. The city needs to serve the airline

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It's obviously a service which meets the demand. If there were enough people flying at an appropriate rate, there would be three services a day.
It's a two way thing - enough people need to pay to fly for the airline to afford to operate the service. Airlines don't walk away from services because they are making too much money. The city needs to serve the airline
It's a two way thing - enough people need to pay to fly for the airline to afford to operate the service. Airlines don't walk away from services because they are making too much money. The city needs to serve the airline
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AMS has had months of negative press in relation to queues, delays, baggage handling. I shouldn't think this is driving passengers up.
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Ams is not the only route that has been severely reduced. Bfs has also been severely reduced. It is not that long ago that a Saturday would see maybe 5 flights a day, this winter it is 1. Weekdays also reduced, with first flights not until late morning. I struggle to understand why such a large change so quickly.
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LHR-NQY 29DEC 13
MAN-NQY 02JAN 55
NQY-LHR 02JAN 53
Newquay - Heathrow seems to be operating a lot more reliably than under Flybe Mk 1, though I can't speak to whether it is actually making any money. Fares are teensy bit more competitive, too. Very useful indeed while GWR is up the spout.
MAN-NQY 02JAN 55
NQY-LHR 02JAN 53
Newquay - Heathrow seems to be operating a lot more reliably than under Flybe Mk 1, though I can't speak to whether it is actually making any money. Fares are teensy bit more competitive, too. Very useful indeed while GWR is up the spout.
Ams is not the only route that has been severely reduced. Bfs has also been severely reduced. It is not that long ago that a Saturday would see maybe 5 flights a day, this winter it is 1. Weekdays also reduced, with first flights not until late morning. I struggle to understand why such a large change so quickly.
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AMS/Flybe
Logically winter seems to be bearing the brunt but I can only comment specifically on BHX where easyjet were packing out BHX - AMS twice daily in summer and in winter it is between 4 and 6 per week. Naturally yields slump in winter but not to make such drastic cuts and KLM have dropped from 5 daily to 3 daily until mid February (4 daily in winter usually) with load factors this November 91% (generally November was average) which is more akin to a loco route. Note easyjet have 2 aircraft on the ground Amsterdam today for over 24 hours and that is on a winter Friday, so not operating elsewhere!!
The only operator unaffected is Flybe with the service remaining daily but again I am sure if they could get the slots that would increase. Flybe have also been helped on Glasgow and Edinburgh by easyjet with some frequency reductions such as no flights to Glasgow on a Thursday (changes soon) which was one of the busiest business days at BHX in winter, albeit pre COVID and things have changed. Edinburgh some days is just daily with that flight departing 21.30 whereas Flybe offer 2 daily.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/amst...en-flight-cap/
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Ams is not the only route that has been severely reduced. Bfs has also been severely reduced. It is not that long ago that a Saturday would see maybe 5 flights a day, this winter it is 1. Weekdays also reduced, with first flights not until late morning. I struggle to understand why such a large change so quickly.