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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 15:19
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Japan's JAL, ANA cancel or reroute Europe flights due to Ukraine crisis

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Sabre Has announced its “cutting off” Aeroflot’s technology.
Sabre is removing Aeroflot’s flight content from its global distribution systems, making it almost impossible to sell tickets.
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Amadeos have as well.
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Some silly prices for flights from neighbouring countries further west now. Ryanair & Wizz will be happy.
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Some silly prices for flights from neighbouring countries further west now. Ryanair & Wizz will be happy.
Wizz have offered up to 100,000 free seats from Poland, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia for refugees.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...efugee-flights


Ryanair Holdings Plc said it will help airlift medical supplies bound for Ukraine, while fellow discounter Wizz Air Holdings Plc has offered 100,000 free tickets to refugees once they reach neighboring countries.
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Sabre Has announced its “cutting off” Aeroflot’s technology.
Sabre is removing Aeroflot’s flight content from its global distribution systems, making it almost impossible to sell tickets.
Well done Sabre!
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S7 worried about frames being seized?https://simpleflying.com/russian-s7-...airspace-bans/
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Travelport and Amadeus have also stopped handling Aeroflot bookings but I'm a little confused. For a start there are other Russian airlines like S7 - I've not seen anything about anyone other than Aeroflot.

Then there's the Sabre PSS which is used by Aeroflot (which systems do other Russian airlines use - I think S7 use Amadeus Altea?). The Sabre release only talks about their GDS so are Aeroflot still using the Sabre PSS?
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Travelport and Amadeus have also stopped handling Aeroflot bookings but I'm a little confused. For a start there are other Russian airlines like S7 - I've not seen anything about anyone other than Aeroflot.

Then there's the Sabre PSS which is used by Aeroflot (which systems do other Russian airlines use - I think S7 use Amadeus Altea?). The Sabre release only talks about their GDS so are Aeroflot still using the Sabre PSS?
Yes. They are still using the PSS. The Loganair CEO commented on LinkedIn about how it was a PR stunt by Sabre considering they still allowed this.

S7 had an A320 impounded in Yerevan and suspended all international flights. Now all airlines with leased planes have been ordered to do so.

Aeroflot has been the main target because it is partly state owned and very much gets state support.
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Old 6th Mar 2022, 00:45
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S7 airlines announce on 5th March that it is cancelling all International flights. It is said that 100 of its 105 a/c are currently leased from Western lessors. S7 is the second largest airline in Russia. 777 of 980 pax a/c in Russia are on lease. E.U. sanctions state that leasing companies must terminate contracts with Russian carriers over the next weeks. Many of the a/c are leased through Irish leasing companies. Sabre is taking immediate steps to remove Aeroflot flight content from the GDS. and Amadeus has begun suspending distribution of State backed fares in its system. Putin was shown yesterday at a brunch with newly qualified Aeroflot stewardesses at the SU training centre outside Moscow. I wonder if he told them to enjoy their sole international route to Minsk.? Good luck to all the pax claiming their money back for cancelled Russian carrier flights.

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Old 6th Mar 2022, 08:28
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A number of home bound Russians from the Caribbean are going to have longer routes home. I noticed on flight radar 24 a number routing between Iceland and Greenland then around North Cape to Moscow and St Petersburg.

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Old 6th Mar 2022, 11:00
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A number of home bound Russians from the Caribbean are going to have longer routes home. I noticed on flight radar 24 a number routing between Iceland and Greenland then around North Cape to Moscow and St Petersburg
There were still some going the other way when I looked yesterday, to places like Havana, Varadero, Punta Cana and Porlamar
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Probally only moping up those who are left.
Currently Egypt which used to have a good flow of Russian tourists to Red Sea resorts, today has a couple of 777 & 747s only. Again I suspect only picking up pax.
It will become quite obvious soon as the hotels which catered for Russian tourists mainly empty out.
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i see that Azul are routing their central Russian flights (Yekaterinburg) to the Dominican Republic out over Turkey, along the southern mediterranean coast with a stop-over in Agadir, presumably for fuel, before heading across the Dominican Republic, whilst there Moscow flights head north before flying down the Atlantic - seem to have several aircraft airborne at the moment. Wonder if these are flying outbound empty as the new restrictions placed by Mastercard and Visa will make it extremely difficult for Russian's to travel overseas.

I wonder how Azul are managing to pay for their fuel (suitcases full of dollar notes?) and whether any of the leasing companies will soon start to seize these aircraft when they are at foreign airports as most of their fleet are leased?
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 12:33
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DXB Arr/Dep boards interesting for flts from / to DME / VKO / SVO.
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interesting article in the Financial Times about the various Aircraft Leasing company's exposure in the Russian market with most airlines leasing their aircraft from Western countries

https://www.ft.com/content/9a24a4b3-...3-cbe393461473
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I would be interested to learn how many leased Boeing and Airbus a/c have been : 1. Seized outside Russia. 2. Returned to the lessors voluntarily ? 3. Remaining in Russia with non intention of the lessee returning them ?
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Old 23rd Mar 2022, 15:41
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I would be interested to learn how many leased Boeing and Airbus a/c have been : 1. Seized outside Russia. 2. Returned to the lessors voluntarily ? 3. Remaining in Russia with non intention of the lessee returning them ?
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According to this article Russia has “lost 78 planes to being seized overseas”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...cid=entnewsntp
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Old 23rd Mar 2022, 17:42
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I would be interested to learn how many leased Boeing and Airbus a/c have been : 1. Seized outside Russia. 2. Returned to the lessors voluntarily ? 3. Remaining in Russia with non intention of the lessee returning them ?
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This blog post may be interesting - https://about.ch-aviation.com/blog/2...ide-of-russia/
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