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Old 1st Mar 2022, 04:38
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Volga-Dnepra IL76 fro Moscow just overflew Poland and landed at Bratislava.
I wonder why?
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Originally Posted by Cunliffe
Volga-Dnepra IL76 fro Moscow just overflew Poland and landed at Bratislava.
I wonder why?
Slovakians have stated it was nuclear fuel, and permitted under the terms of the ban. Donít know how often they take such deliveries, but if infrequently the timing was a bit unfortunate.
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Who owns these aircraft, registered in Bermuda 🇧🇲 all flying now over the Atlantic.
If they are leased maybe this is the opportunity to get them back.

VP-BGK
VP-BJH
VQ-BZC
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Apparently a twitter account that has been following Elon Musk's plane has now taken to following Russian Oligarchs jets
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I read earlier that Aleksej Mordasjov a (Russian Oligarchs) is a major share holder in TUI.
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Originally Posted by Hartington
Apparently a twitter account that has been following Elon Musk's plane has now taken to following Russian Oligarchs jets
Good on him, they won't like that!
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I think Russian oligarchs may not be quite so understanding as Elon Musk
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Originally Posted by daz211
Who owns these aircraft, registered in Bermuda 🇧🇲 all flying now over the Atlantic.
If they are leased maybe this is the opportunity to get them back.

VP-BGK
VP-BJH
VQ-BZC
VQ-BZA
Three of them are AerCap, not sure on the other one (BJH)
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 14:39
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The Russian Oligarchs twitter feed has me wondering? All this fuss about closing airspace then you look at that feed and planes are still flying (but not in closed airspace?). Do "the authorities" know that a lot of western made Russian aircraft are registered outside Russia?
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Old 1st Mar 2022, 15:30
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Originally Posted by Hartington
The Russian Oligarchs twitter feed has me wondering? All this fuss about closing airspace then you look at that feed and planes are still flying (but not in closed airspace?).
I'm not familiar with that particular Twitter feed, but I wouldn't have thought that Russians flying around in airspace that isn't closed to them was particularly noteworthy.
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Originally Posted by Hartington
Do "the authorities" know that a lot of western made Russian aircraft are registered outside Russia?
Yes. Hence, for example, the UK NOTAM;
...NO AIRCRAFT WHICH IS OWNED, CHARTERED OR OPERATED BY A
PERSON CONNECTED WITH RUSSIA, OR WHICH IS REGISTERED IN RUSSIA SHALL
FLY IN UNITED KINGDOM AIRSPACE, INCLUDING IN THE AIRSPACE ABOVE THE
UNITED KINGDOM'S TERRITORIAL SEA...
Other countries have similar formulations in their NOTAMs.
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So how are CARGOLOGICAIR still flying out of the UK then?
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If the non-Russian-built aircraft in use in Russia were subject to a spares embargo, Russian civil aviation would quickly slow down. Is this likely?
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Iran managed to keep its Boeing aircraft going for many many years while the US applied maximum sanctions. If Iran can find a way to keep aircraft in the skies, I imagine Russia can do so as well, and more effectively
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Originally Posted by LGS6753
If the non-Russian-built aircraft in use in Russia were subject to a spares embargo, Russian civil aviation would quickly slow down. Is this likely?
Now Russia is essentially limited to operating internally along with international connections to the likes of China, DPRK and Cuba (though how they get to the latter without flying through airspace closed to them I can't readily see!) they ought to have plenty of grounded western equipment which they could cannibalise to keep a core fleet in the air, and that's before they start thinking about bringing 134s, 154s and IL62s back into service - supposing there are that many still extant that could be brought back to operational condition.

(OK I don't know if any of the former USSR nations - e.g. Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, etc. have banned Russian airlines)

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Boeing announced on Tuesday that it would be pulling support for all Russian aircraft.

This includes sales of spare parts and maintenance support for Russian Airlines, the biggest of which is Aeroflot, Russias flag carrier. The airline operates a fleet of 37 737s and 22 777s.

The company also said it would be temporarily closing its office in Kyiv. The pulling of support comes as tensions and sanctions escalate in the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
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FR 24 is currently (c 1330 in UK/Ireland) showing 2 Antonov 124 near Constanta, Romania. One outbound and one inbound, both passing 16,000 ft. Both have Ukranian registration , and are flagged as Antonov Airlines. Any more info about Antonov Airlines continuing operations?
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FR 24 is currently (c 1330 in UK/Ireland) showing 2 Antonov 124 near Constanta, Romania. One outbound and one inbound, both passing 16,000 ft. Both have Ukranian registration , and are flagged as Antonov Airlines. Any more info about Antonov Airlines continuing operations?
Most of ADB's business is outside Ukraine (only 2 of their 7 An-124s are stuck at Gostomel). No reason for them to have ceased operations.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 03:03
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
Civil ATC is not a police service, any flight entering your airspace with a flight plan will be given service, what happens afterwards is a matter for the authorities after landing. There are more worrying things happening right now than worrying if one Aeroflot aircraft is entering an FIR supposedly not being allowed into .We should be far more worried about the Western aircraft currently taking shortcuts around Ukrainian airspace when hell will break loose.
Like KAL007? MH17? Sometimes hostile countries that are trigger happy take care of the perceived threat before landing.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Most of ADB's business is outside Ukraine (only 2 of their 7 An-124s are stuck at Gostomel). No reason for them to have ceased operations.
The AN-225 and AN-22 were both at Hostomel for maintenance. The AN-225 has sustained damage, severity unknown as yet. Status of AN-22 is unknown at this time. Hope this helps
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