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Old 28th Feb 2022, 04:58
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So how did Aeroflot react to the immediate airspace ban from Canada? With the aid of Navcan AFL111 took no notice. Questions now being asked why.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 07:07
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Originally Posted by Wycombe
2 Aeroflot 350's currently in the Carribean area (PUJ, CUN) - will be interesting to see what happens to them
The return ex CUN SU159 overflew the still friendly U.S. but not Canada, the PUJ kept to the East.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 09:27
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This morning I noticed at least 11 A320 sized aircraft on the route from Moscow to Sochi, obviously extended to avoid Ukraine. I cannot believe that that is a normal level of traffic between those cities.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 09:49
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Originally Posted by pulse1
This morning I noticed at least 11 A320 sized aircraft on the route from Moscow to Sochi, obviously extended to avoid Ukraine. I cannot believe that that is a normal level of traffic between those cities.
Lots of airports in southern Russia are closed so traffic is being rerouted to Sochi. Rostov, Krasnodar and Voronezh among the closed airports so they used to get a lot of flights.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 09:58
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Even before the current fracas kicked off, there were around three dozen flights a day between SVO/DME/VKO and Sochi.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 13:45
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Originally Posted by Pain in the R's
So how did Aeroflot react to the immediate airspace ban from Canada? With the aid of Navcan AFL111 took no notice. Questions now being asked why.
I'll be interested to see what the TC inquiry finds for this. They were certainly asked on first contact with Moncton Center whether they were aware of the NOTAM, and I have seen it said that they were also asked the same question by Boston prior to crossing the border.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 14:23
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Any word on those Wizz aircraft caught up at Kiev? They still on the ground there?
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 15:04
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Yes, they are.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 15:21
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Yes, they are.
How many? Thanks
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 15:25
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FR24 reckons HA-LWY, HA-LPJ and HA-LPM are in Kyiv Zhuliany and that HA-LWS is at Lviv

You can verify for yourself with the following links:
On the ground at Kyiv Zhuliany:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/iev/ground
On the ground at Lviv:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/lwo/ground

Or look at the following links to see recent history of individual aircraft
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ha-lwy
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ha-lpj
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ha-lpm
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ha-lws
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 15:39
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Thank you David
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 16:14
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SU7236 SVO to VRN, having been airborne for over 5 hours already is currently holding over Greece.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 16:48
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Now landing at Istanbul
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan
SU7236 SVO to VRN, having been airborne for over 5 hours already is currently holding over Greece.
Diverting to IST. I don't understand what it was doing down there anyway given that the Italians closed their airspace at 1400Z yesterday.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 17:06
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SU7236 is an ad-hoc flight number. I wouldn't be surprised to find that it was never planned to go to Italy.
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 17:23
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
SU7236 is an ad-hoc flight number. I wouldn't be surprised to find that it was never planned to go to Italy.
Is that a polite way of saying this was Russia testing the EU to see if they really mean what they say about airspace closure, and whether the EU is willing to enforce the closure ?
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 18:01
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With Irish lessors AerCap and SMBC Aviation wanting their hundreds of leased aircraft back then flying even internally in Russia is going to bite!
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 18:07
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With Irish lessors AerCap and SMBC Aviation wanting their hundreds of leased aircraft back then flying even internally in Russia is going to bite!
Question is, how would they get them back?
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Old 28th Feb 2022, 18:19
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Question for the lawyers, I don't know if some sort of bond is held in escrow?
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If the conflict escalates, I wouldn’t have thought there would be the remotest possibility that any of the leased aircraft would be returned to the leasing companies. The Russian regime almost certainly would not allow anyone into the country to reclaim them, and would probably destroy them rather than hand them back.
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