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Old 26th Nov 2021, 18:55
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In the footnote to the list of CAA certificated aerodromes, their exclusion is based on passenger numbers.
Not sure why Coventry is included..
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 18:57
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from the same link:The following aerodromes are exempt from certification due to passenger numbers under the Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 of the European Parliament and of the council of 20 February 2008, Article 4, Basic principles and applicability.
  • Blackpool EGNH
  • Carlisle EGNC
  • Shoreham EGKA
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 19:11
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Remind me guys…who owns..and therefore is responsible , for regulatory licensing, up front costs,ATC ,AFS , airport staffing et al ?
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 19:17
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It's still Esken
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 19:27
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So the local authorities have no input?
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 20:08
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Blackpool and Carlisle are still there but they have UK CAA Aerodrome Licenses rather than EASA Aerodrome Certificates. Carlisle is listed under Public Licenses and Blackpool under Ordinary Licenses but itís actually a Public Licence.
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Old 26th Nov 2021, 20:34
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Depends what you mean by input, but they don't own any part of the airport.
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Old 8th Jan 2022, 21:12
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Any news from our Friends in the NW re. the current situation?

Notam says closed until the 12th..any update?
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Old 11th Jan 2022, 18:51
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Notam..12 April now…what on earth is going on?

The future while Covid is around looks bleak.
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 10:38
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The Carlisle airport fire crew were training at the threatened Teesside fire school recently so there is a glimmer of hope for the staff.
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 11:24
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There's a military exercise going on at Spadeadam during March and a number of military aircraft are expected to be using CAX as a base
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 12:23
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There's a military exercise going on at Spadeadam during March and a number of military aircraft are expected to be using CAX as a base
They might struggle - the airports still closed.
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 12:53
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If the MoD want to use the airport, wouldn't they be responsible for providing the ATC coverage if it's not available due to a lack of ATCOs based at CAX?
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Old 24th Feb 2022, 09:38
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it's not just lack of ATC - there's no fuel service, ground handling, airport ops, fire cover etc.
I'm sure they could do a deal if they wanted to though
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Old 24th Feb 2022, 09:56
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Operate as in past from far North side away from GA and Terminal, ATC just free call on Tower frequency, Fuel they bring there own, Fire cover not required
they are military and are used to operate from forward locations without major infrastructure.
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Update…Called in today. A sad area.Covid had taken over the car park.but even they now packing in.

The airport is almost completely closed..such a shame after all the investment.

No schedule flights just Un licensed private flying..mainly at weekend.

AFS do have a presence with two shifts..but a watching protection service only.
ATC. only again a watching safety brief only.
No airport infrastructure in place?

Hoping for a possible restricted opening in July..but definitely no schedules on the horizon..

Not in a good place?
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Old 5th Apr 2022, 22:26
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Was it all part of the plan? Stobart only wanted a depot so was the terminal part of a section 106 agreement?

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Old 6th Apr 2022, 05:42
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ATC. only again a watching safety brief only.
Not sure what you mean by a watching safety brief,m but didn't think there was any on site. They don't respond to calls.

Was it all part of the plan? Stobart only wanted a depot so was the terminal part of a section 106 agreement?
No
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Old 6th Apr 2022, 19:36
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Which bit is the 'No'?
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Old 27th May 2022, 13:13
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Update…Called in today. A sad area.Covid had taken over the car park.but even they now packing in.

The airport is almost completely closed..such a shame after all the investment.

No schedule flights just Un licensed private flying..mainly at weekend.

AFS do have a presence with two shifts..but a watching protection service only.
ATC. only again a watching safety brief only.
No airport infrastructure in place?

Hoping for a possible restricted opening in July..but definitely no schedules on the horizon..

Not in a good place?
I'm not aware of any ATC or AFS service, although I havent flown since last year, so maybe it's a recent thing. Pilots are responsible for communicating their intentions with each other at the moment.

No fuel service or anything else available at the moment.

I see the Esken company accounts are now out, with plenty of mention on Southend and their plans for the future there. No mention of Carlisle at all other than to say it's under "Non Strategic Infrastructure" rather than aviation... they've clearly given up on it. I don't see it opening until they find a buyer.
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