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Creation of ten extra parking stands, that’s 33% increase, starts this winter at LBA alongside the redevelopment of the terminal which will see capacity double. So once completed there will be plenty of room to base more aircraft if they want to. Thats not to say Jet2 wouldn’t look at DSA as they have ambitious growth plans over the next 6 years, but I don’t think it’s comparable to the decision to go in to LPL which in itself is a much larger market than Yorkshire/Lincolnshire, nor the decision to base at BOH which is the last heavily populated part of the country without any exposure to Jet2 and Jet2holidays.
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Bigger operations from 2Excel judging from their statement last week. Could it be double- triple from pre closure levels. If so that would be a significant increase of income.
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Having said that any new entrant expecting to massively grow passenger traffic would be naïve. It will be a gradual thing, which looks to being supported by a multi-use airfield. While I'm pleased with the prospect of the airport opening I have a degree of concern as to the overnight noise. It will be what it will be,
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https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/jet2-b...rnemouth-45518
ends any speculation of a DSA base, so back to just TUI?
ends any speculation of a DSA base, so back to just TUI?
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https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/jet2-b...rnemouth-45518
ends any speculation of a DSA base, so back to just TUI?
ends any speculation of a DSA base, so back to just TUI?
Jet2 always seemed unlikely.
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As I said before, people expecting passenger ops to be a priority are going to be very disappointed. All those posting on Facebook excited about being able to fly to Spain from there again are going to have a shock.
They are going after other business, not passenger ops.
Will you be able to push for more airlines and destinations to be available so people can regularly travel from DSA?
“We will be selecting an operator who can demonstrate the ability to bring us more airlines and everyone else in and actually grow the airport to make it an airport city over time.
“It is very much arms-length once the operator is in place. We are looking for the operator to come forward with a great business case that shows how they’re going to grow the airport and turn it into a financial package and drive the economy forward.”
“We will be selecting an operator who can demonstrate the ability to bring us more airlines and everyone else in and actually grow the airport to make it an airport city over time.
“It is very much arms-length once the operator is in place. We are looking for the operator to come forward with a great business case that shows how they’re going to grow the airport and turn it into a financial package and drive the economy forward.”
Not just the people on Facebook
They are going after other business, not passenger ops.
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https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...pments-4564748
Not just the people on Facebook
Such as? Even an expanded 2Excel (doing what?) isn't going to pay many bills.
Not just the people on Facebook
Such as? Even an expanded 2Excel (doing what?) isn't going to pay many bills.
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Wizz have rules themselves out returning. I don't know TUI have the spare aircraft or the appetite to do it again.
As I said before, people expecting passenger ops to be a priority are going to be very disappointed. All those posting on Facebook excited about being able to fly to Spain from there again are going to have a shock.
They are going after other business, not passenger ops.
As I said before, people expecting passenger ops to be a priority are going to be very disappointed. All those posting on Facebook excited about being able to fly to Spain from there again are going to have a shock.
They are going after other business, not passenger ops.
But they will not want to go through cancellations, so I would not expect to see them before 2026, and unless (and highly unlikely) another airline offers to base a few aircraft there in the meantime, I suspect that is when passenger operations may restart.
And agreed on the FB group. There are a lot of naive people, who seem to think that flights will magically restart and the previous programme will simply resume. I think actually for DSA's longevity, starting away from passengers is a good thing.
Potential re-opening of the airport is providing growth already in certain sectors of local industry 
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A 19-strong team from WBD led by partners Nikki Jonas and Kevin Robertson from the firm's commercial property and projects and procurement teams respectively helped advise the Council on the transaction, advising across the lease agreement itself but also on overall planning, procurement, grant funding, subsidy control, employment, and commercial aspects.
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Wizz have rules themselves out returning. I don't know TUI have the spare aircraft or the appetite to do it again.
As I said before, people expecting passenger ops to be a priority are going to be very disappointed. All those posting on Facebook excited about being able to fly to Spain from there again are going to have a shock.
They are going after other business, not passenger ops.
As I said before, people expecting passenger ops to be a priority are going to be very disappointed. All those posting on Facebook excited about being able to fly to Spain from there again are going to have a shock.
They are going after other business, not passenger ops.
Winter25 would be my guess as a start, gives operations a chance to get to grips with what’s required as no doubt they’ll be plenty of green staff.
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If there was no commercial case for the original DSA to operate, I fail to see how anything has changed.
Half a dozen airlines tried it and none, besides TUI, succeeded. TUI alone couldn't keep the lights on.
My concern is that a reopening could be seen as nothing more than a vanity project, burning taxpayers money to the tune of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of pounds, running at a perpetual loss. The guarantees they'd have to provide prospective airlines would be incredibly burdensome if not downright eye-watering. I understand there's a lot of local support but kind words don't pay the bills and if the yields weren't sufficient to keep the cogs turning in the past, why would it change now? Cargo is one possibility but you already have the UK's largest air freight hub less than 60 miles down the road.
I'd rather see a solid plan for viability instead of agreeing to burn shedloads of cash upfront on the basis it might work this time.
I say this as someone who used DSA regularly in the past and supported the airport as much as possible. If it's viable, I'm all for it. If it's not, let's get real.
Half a dozen airlines tried it and none, besides TUI, succeeded. TUI alone couldn't keep the lights on.
My concern is that a reopening could be seen as nothing more than a vanity project, burning taxpayers money to the tune of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of pounds, running at a perpetual loss. The guarantees they'd have to provide prospective airlines would be incredibly burdensome if not downright eye-watering. I understand there's a lot of local support but kind words don't pay the bills and if the yields weren't sufficient to keep the cogs turning in the past, why would it change now? Cargo is one possibility but you already have the UK's largest air freight hub less than 60 miles down the road.
I'd rather see a solid plan for viability instead of agreeing to burn shedloads of cash upfront on the basis it might work this time.
I say this as someone who used DSA regularly in the past and supported the airport as much as possible. If it's viable, I'm all for it. If it's not, let's get real.
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If there was no commercial case for the original DSA to operate, I fail to see how anything has changed.
Half a dozen airlines tried it and none, besides TUI, succeeded. TUI alone couldn't keep the lights on.
My concern is that a reopening could be seen as nothing more than a vanity project, burning taxpayers money to the tune of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of pounds, running at a perpetual loss. The guarantees they'd have to provide prospective airlines would be incredibly burdensome if not downright eye-watering. I understand there's a lot of local support but kind words don't pay the bills and if the yields weren't sufficient to keep the cogs turning in the past, why would it change now? Cargo is one possibility but you already have the UK's largest air freight hub less than 60 miles down the road.
I'd rather see a solid plan for viability instead of agreeing to burn shedloads of cash upfront on the basis it might work this time.
I say this as someone who used DSA regularly in the past and supported the airport as much as possible. If it's viable, I'm all for it. If it's not, let's get real.
Half a dozen airlines tried it and none, besides TUI, succeeded. TUI alone couldn't keep the lights on.
My concern is that a reopening could be seen as nothing more than a vanity project, burning taxpayers money to the tune of tens (if not hundreds) of millions of pounds, running at a perpetual loss. The guarantees they'd have to provide prospective airlines would be incredibly burdensome if not downright eye-watering. I understand there's a lot of local support but kind words don't pay the bills and if the yields weren't sufficient to keep the cogs turning in the past, why would it change now? Cargo is one possibility but you already have the UK's largest air freight hub less than 60 miles down the road.
I'd rather see a solid plan for viability instead of agreeing to burn shedloads of cash upfront on the basis it might work this time.
I say this as someone who used DSA regularly in the past and supported the airport as much as possible. If it's viable, I'm all for it. If it's not, let's get real.
But you have to have faith in the people advising the council and the fact that they have reputable and experienced operators wanting to run it...
Spending cash upfront is inevitable when setting up an airport. Some of that capital spend of course would be recoverable to some extent if it shuts down again, and some won't.
But you have to have faith in the people advising the council and the fact that they have reputable and experienced operators wanting to run it...
But you have to have faith in the people advising the council and the fact that they have reputable and experienced operators wanting to run it...
" The only concern would be if the advisors / consultants were telling their client, the council what they wanted to hear, rather than a warts and all picture."
And that NEVER happens of course.....................
And that NEVER happens of course.....................
I was always taught that consultants were only employed to produce reports that backed the views of the CEO of any organisation - that way he/she had an"outside" report to brandish at people..................
That is often the case, especially where politicians are involved!
Very true. In 40 years of working in pharmaceuticals, consultants either came up with a report that backed the CEO / Board's wishes or told the CEO / Board what the employees had been telling management for years but to no avail! Thousands, indeed millions could have been saved by listening to the people "on the ground" / "at the coal-face." There is most definitely a place for the 'right' type of consultants but be very careful in their selection.