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Assumptions 10 tonnes high grade steel arrives on a 747 freighter in Saudi colours from Liege and assumed cargo originates from the desert.
Liege is far more likely the source, it’s very close to some of the worlds specialist metal foundries whilst the North Midlands has some of the leading finishing companies and fabricators on the doorstep of Donnington.
Liege is far more likely the source, it’s very close to some of the worlds specialist metal foundries whilst the North Midlands has some of the leading finishing companies and fabricators on the doorstep of Donnington.
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Any truth in the rumour that Easy are looking to gain a share of the package holiday market from EMA next year by utilising BHX based aircraft on a ‘W’ pattern?
Perhaps this ties-in with OltonPete’s post #248?
Any truth in the rumour that Easy are looking to gain a share of the package holiday market from EMA next year by utilising BHX based aircraft on a ‘W’ pattern?
Perhaps this ties-in with OltonPete’s post #248?
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Interesting theory, I imagine all will be revealed in September or October, perhaps sooner.
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Remember it's only a 3 aircraft base @ BHX (to start with) which means spreading said aircraft very thinly to serve both BHX and EMA as well as serving destinations on a very low frequency basis. In addition, W patterns are notorious for racking up delays, hardly what EasyJet would want to be known for when opening a brand new base.
There's no reason why easyJet can't successfully serve both BHX and EMA but with 2 separate bases like Jet2 and Ryanair who happily operate from both.
Me thinks this rumour has come from the same source that claimed Qatar were going to fly to EMA instead of returning to BHX.....
There's no reason why easyJet can't successfully serve both BHX and EMA but with 2 separate bases like Jet2 and Ryanair who happily operate from both.
Me thinks this rumour has come from the same source that claimed Qatar were going to fly to EMA instead of returning to BHX.....
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Is EMA in danger of killing the goose that laid the golden egg?
EMA is apparently planning to "ban" noisier aircraft, which will most be freighters from overnight operations:-
Noisy night flight ban proposed (BBC News)
I am reminded of what happened at Maastricht when the local authorities brought in fairly draconian restrictions on night operations at MST that effectively killed off the integrators (UPS, TNT, DHL etc in todays money) operations at the airport, to the benefit of the likes of CGN and LGG. Of course in the case of EMA it is the airport operators (MAG) rather than local authorities planning this.
Given the timescales involved, 2024 - 2028, how is this likely to affect EMA cargo operations? Obviously, with Doncaster effectively out of the frame as an alternative to EMA, and airports like BHX and MAN already pretty restrictive on night time operations I suppose the risk is rather less, but what do people closer to the coal-face than I think?
Noisy night flight ban proposed (BBC News)
I am reminded of what happened at Maastricht when the local authorities brought in fairly draconian restrictions on night operations at MST that effectively killed off the integrators (UPS, TNT, DHL etc in todays money) operations at the airport, to the benefit of the likes of CGN and LGG. Of course in the case of EMA it is the airport operators (MAG) rather than local authorities planning this.
Given the timescales involved, 2024 - 2028, how is this likely to affect EMA cargo operations? Obviously, with Doncaster effectively out of the frame as an alternative to EMA, and airports like BHX and MAN already pretty restrictive on night time operations I suppose the risk is rather less, but what do people closer to the coal-face than I think?
EMA is apparently planning to "ban" noisier aircraft, which will most be freighters from overnight operations:-
Noisy night flight ban proposed (BBC News)
I am reminded of what happened at Maastricht when the local authorities brought in fairly draconian restrictions on night operations at MST that effectively killed off the integrators (UPS, TNT, DHL etc in todays money) operations at the airport, to the benefit of the likes of CGN and LGG. Of course in the case of EMA it is the airport operators (MAG) rather than local authorities planning this.
Given the timescales involved, 2024 - 2028, how is this likely to affect EMA cargo operations? Obviously, with Doncaster effectively out of the frame as an alternative to EMA, and airports like BHX and MAN already pretty restrictive on night time operations I suppose the risk is rather less, but what do people closer to the coal-face than I think?
Noisy night flight ban proposed (BBC News)
I am reminded of what happened at Maastricht when the local authorities brought in fairly draconian restrictions on night operations at MST that effectively killed off the integrators (UPS, TNT, DHL etc in todays money) operations at the airport, to the benefit of the likes of CGN and LGG. Of course in the case of EMA it is the airport operators (MAG) rather than local authorities planning this.
Given the timescales involved, 2024 - 2028, how is this likely to affect EMA cargo operations? Obviously, with Doncaster effectively out of the frame as an alternative to EMA, and airports like BHX and MAN already pretty restrictive on night time operations I suppose the risk is rather less, but what do people closer to the coal-face than I think?
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Although there wasn't a ban per se on the most noisy A/C before I retired, the financial penalty to operate was quite severe, a big jump in the fee payable - to the extent that some departures were pushed back till after the period - also the number of freighter conversions ongoing must mean a reduction in the older, noisier types?
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With freight accounting for about a third of the airport’s income, I doubt very much that this decision was taken without firstly having exhaustive conversations with the major operators at the airport. The management are unlikely to risk jeopardising EMA’s position in the market by imposing restrictions that will alienate those organisations. In the short term they may have an impact on ad-hoc flights, although I think I’m correct in assuming that, by and large, these tend not to operate during the night and in any case are not a significant proportion of the throughput.
In terms of good PR for the airport, the proposal has obviously generated a favourable response from the general public and the management may feel that by taking this decision unilaterally it may preclude the imposition of more draconian measures by any future government.
It may also go a long way in easing the passage of any future planning applications the airport may be considering submitting.
In terms of good PR for the airport, the proposal has obviously generated a favourable response from the general public and the management may feel that by taking this decision unilaterally it may preclude the imposition of more draconian measures by any future government.
It may also go a long way in easing the passage of any future planning applications the airport may be considering submitting.
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Ryanair's on sale winter schedule from EMA is looking quite significant in terms of growth this year. Still very low numbers Tuesday-Thursday but the other week days up to 17 departures. Lots of route frequency increases with Alicante and Tenerife at least daily. The likes of Barcelona and Rome previously summer seasonal now operating throughout winter, plus the new route to Prague. Not a bad offering if it all comes to fruition.
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Ryanair's on sale winter schedule from EMA is looking quite significant in terms of growth this year. Still very low numbers Tuesday-Thursday but the other week days up to 17 departures. Lots of route frequency increases with Alicante and Tenerife at least daily. The likes of Barcelona and Rome previously summer seasonal now operating throughout winter, plus the new route to Prague. Not a bad offering if it all comes to fruition.
Łódź also returning 2 weekly from 30th October 23
Unintended consequences - freight is a massively labour intensive business with huge numbers involved in loading/sorting etc. Any reduction in capability would run the risk of big economic impact in the local area with so many employed. Most of the freight ac that I see are relatively new with more newer airframes coming on stream.
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Unintended consequences - freight is a massively labour intensive business with huge numbers involved in loading/sorting etc. Any reduction in capability would run the risk of big economic impact in the local area with so many employed. Most of the freight ac that I see are relatively new with more newer airframes coming on stream.
Using the recent 'Download' traffic fiasco as an example the local authorities are eventually going to have to decide whether it is Donington Park or EMA that is of greatest benefit to the local economy from an employment perspective as I imagine that event will have caused headaches (not from the music) for DHL, UPS and FedEx, not to mention the PAX business.
"sadly, Nottingham is a particularly low wage economy"
I thought you must be wrong as it's a really vibrant spot with lots going on and some nice areas but checking I see you're right - median wage is £ 536 a week
Derby is £ 709 tho and that's just as close to EMA
I thought you must be wrong as it's a really vibrant spot with lots going on and some nice areas but checking I see you're right - median wage is £ 536 a week
Derby is £ 709 tho and that's just as close to EMA
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Asturias56,
Without derailing the thread too far Derby benefits from high-tech industries such as aerospace and rail; Nottingham is, apart from for the Boots campus very much low tech and service based (serving an over large student community).
The city has a cosmopolitan feel but in terms of wealth looks are deceptive.
Without derailing the thread too far Derby benefits from high-tech industries such as aerospace and rail; Nottingham is, apart from for the Boots campus very much low tech and service based (serving an over large student community).
The city has a cosmopolitan feel but in terms of wealth looks are deceptive.
Well given the choice between Nottingham, Leicester and Derby I know which one I'd live in
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