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Old 27th Mar 2024, 21:19
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Jet2 did BFS-BOH-BFS back around 2005. It didn't last long. I was on the first flight to BFS, about 9 pax including 3 of us who were Channex staff.
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Took a while to take off but it carried around 5,000 pax a month eventually. The reason it didn’t last long was because it was a daily service! Far too much capacity.
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

One airline that may also want in on the action is easyJet.
I think Easyjet could well follow suit now that Ryanair, TUI and Jet2 have given BOH a vote of confidence. I kind of think that BOH may follow in the footsteps of East Midlands, Belfast International, Bristol, consolidating around an offering of Ryanair, TUI, Jet2 and hopefully Easyjet a year or so from now.

Of course there will be overlap particularly on Spanish sun routes between the 3 principal airlines at BOH, but hopefully the next couple of years will see this ironed out into a wider range of destinations with better frequencies.

I think Easyjet could come in and serve coverage gaps like Amsterdam, Belfast Intl, Bordeaux, Jersey, Larnaca, Paris, Sharm El Sheikh, Split, Tel Aviv which I think would appeal to the central southern market and some of those longer range destinations like Larnaca, Sharm El Sheikh, Split and Tel Aviv can't be offered by Easyjet from SOU so you'd have to go to Bristol, Heathrow or Gatwick currently.

A hotel, reconfigured arrivals and departures and an hourly (min) bus service between Bournemouth travel interchange and the airport surely need to be a part of short to medium-term plans.

A spur from the quarry junction on the A338 needs to become a reality at some point also.

A big problem is the council. They are broke, and a sizeable contingent of the councillors are from the green party/just stop oil apologists / only interested in active travel / those who don't like Bournemouth getting the limelight over Poole or Christchurch. I can't see anyone at the council putting any weight behind supporting better road, heavy or light rail connections any time soon, unfortunately.

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Old 27th Mar 2024, 21:38
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Originally Posted by dixi188
Jet2 did BFS-BOH-BFS back around 2005. It didn't last long. I was on the first flight to BFS, about 9 pax including 3 of us who were Channex staff.
I actually flew this route at the time - it was brilliant. I think I paid £19.99 to visit some friends in Belfast.
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National Express

I wonder if enticing National Express to either stop en route on the London Victoria services, or perhaps operate some sort of W pattern, would be a way of resolving the public transport issue. The coaches are designed for luggage in the hold and have ample space at the travel interchange which connects with many buses and the rail station.
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Old 28th Mar 2024, 09:49
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Originally Posted by dixi188
Jet2 did BFS-BOH-BFS back around 2005. It didn't last long. I was on the first flight to BFS, about 9 pax including 3 of us who were Channex staff.
That's because it was a daily service between Bournemouth and Blefast, far too much capacity back in 2005!!
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Really good question, pretty sure at least some of them could be diverted for a quick drop off and pick up at the airport. National express will likely want some sort of funding to do that....
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If easyJet were to set up a base at BOH could it potentially do a bit of w-flying into SOU? i.e BOH-PMI-SOU-PMI-BOH? To have a dual operation at both BOH and SOU, as they currently do with GVA, might solve some of the issues related to airport operational hours and 'defence' of the easyJet LGW operation by limiting growth of Ryanair, Jet2 and TUI at BOH. It also prevents others from entering SOU thus further protecting their large LGW ops.
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Wonder if Regional and City had a word with Jet2 about NWI ?
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Taxi drivers must be rubbing their hands!
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Originally Posted by rustythumb
I think Easyjet could come in and serve coverage gaps like Amsterdam, Belfast Intl, Bordeaux, Jersey, Larnaca, Paris, Sharm El Sheikh, Split, Tel Aviv which I think would appeal to the central southern market and some of those longer range destinations like Larnaca, Sharm El Sheikh, Split and Tel Aviv can't be offered by Easyjet from SOU so you'd have to go to Bristol, Heathrow or Gatwick.
You do know where Split is right? It’s about 2 hours away in a country called Croatia. BOH-TLV is pure pie in the sky, even before that part of the world went mad. I think some folk are getting over excited. It’s great news that Bournemouth are gaining Jet2. Now let’s all just calm down and not get too carried away with pipe dreams.
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Originally Posted by sealo0
Taxi drivers must be rubbing their hands!
The only ‘public transport’ option from Bournemouth. What a joke!
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https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/ne...mouth-airport/

But Jet2 teased there is scope for even further expansion on top of this. Steve Heapy, chief executive of Jet2, said there could be even more planes landing at Bournemouth in the coming years.
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Heapy said they have no intention of stopping at two aircraft. According to the local paper BOH are working on an expansion programme to prepare the airport for subsequent Jet2 expansion after year one which seems very encouraging indeed. I could easily see a three aircraft fleet in 2026 if they simply add AGP, ALM, REU, BCN, VIE, LCA, DBV & NAP.

Jet2 will be doing their own ground handling at BOH, so getting to a minimum of 3 aircraft will be important for critical mass.
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I highly doubt Jet2 will stick with a 2 based aircraft base - I would imagine 4-6 based in next 2 years, this is what they do, they don't do small bases. There is huge growth potential for Jet2 out of BOH if the corresponding airport facilities and access routes are improved
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It wouldn’t surprise me if Jet2 actually wanted to start with 4 aircraft from the outset but BOH weren’t able to gear up for that sort of huge jump in demand for the start of the S25 season, hence a phased approach.
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Scenario planning

if Jet2 were to ever get to 6 aircraft, then it would have an effect on what TUI can achieve from there. They would likely either remove one aircraft or close the base. Ryanair on the other hand may well also try and grow to perhaps 3 aircraft.

Winter seasonality

Currently there are only two ‘winter only’ destinations and those are Barbados and Geneva. Plenty of scope for significant expansion in the winter. This would aid the year-round expansion of based aircraft.

Long-haul & transitioning from minor to major regional airport

Barbados grew by 95% year in year, 2023 vs 2022, which is a route that could easily support a more regular weekly service. Mexico and Florida is also a possibility.

When BOH gets to a critical mass similar to that of Newcastle, then there is no reason why the airport can’t go after the likes of Emirates to Dubai, especially if London slots are scarce and the third runway at Heathrow doesn’t get built. BOH anticipated 4mppa should Heathrow’s 3rd runway not get built or 3mppa if it does.
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Would Jet2 ever consider Jersey from Bournemouth? Used to be a route that supported up to 7 services on a Summer Saturday by Jersey European F-27’s. It suffered when the new terminal at SOU was opened and the train station there made improvements. But the market must still be there in some form. Palmair operated regular Jersey services using their 146-300’s.
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
Would Jet2 ever consider Jersey from Bournemouth? Used to be a route that supported up to 7 services on a Summer Saturday by Jersey European F-27’s. It suffered when the new terminal at SOU was opened and the train station there made improvements. But the market must still be there in some form. Palmair operated regular Jersey services using their 146-300’s.
It's possible if they find they have some 'downtime' for an aircraft to pop over for a quick there and back...
Jet2 do fly seasonal JER's from EMA, NCL, LBA and possibly LPL? (But EZY already are on the LPL-JER route)
Palmair did the JER day trip flights to get the 146 there for a Palma W flight.

With Jet2 and TUI both now going head to head at BOH next summer with 4 or 5 based 737-800's there selling package holidays (plus Ryanair strongly increasing their schedules/routes and it's based aircraft) leaps BOH into a league of the likes it has never seen before.

BOH in summer 2025 will be 'Holiday Airport Central', and that's what they do.

So to add in a weekend JERSEY bumper then that's a pretty good idea but only if they have the aircraft to do that....Jet2 would not want a stranded 737 there if the dreaded summer fog comes in.

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Originally Posted by Irishshamrock
Scenario planning----Winter seasonality
Currently there are only two ‘winter only’ destinations and those are Barbados and Geneva. Plenty of scope for significant expansion in the winter. This would aid the year-round expansion of based aircraft.

Long-haul & transitioning from minor to major regional airport
Barbados grew by 95% year in year, 2023 vs 2022, which is a route that could easily support a more regular weekly service. Mexico and Florida is also a possibility.

When BOH gets to a critical mass similar to that of Newcastle, then there is no reason why the airport can’t go after the likes of Emirates to Dubai, especially if London slots are scarce and the third runway at Heathrow doesn’t get built. BOH anticipated 4mppa should Heathrow’s 3rd runway not get built or 3mppa if it does.
I admire your enthusiastic candor but BOH is not Gatwick...nor NCL.

Winter holidays flights that do sell well from BOH are Canaries, Cyprus, and in the past Madeira and Egypt, (but only if TUI decide to start up Egypt again because security is so volatile). Jet2 are starting FNC.
Cape Verde would do well from BOH, TUI flies there from many UK airports, and TUI have that destination sewn up, Jet2 do not go there, nor do Jet2 go to Egypt nor Tunisia.
Banjul and Dakar, TUI sells only from LGW and MAN.
Jet2 could offer ALC and AGP during the winter as these are popular and have not been served by TUI for years.

Ski flights - sell very well at both BOH and SOU with strong demand, hence Easyjet flying from both airports, and from BRS and LGW too, plus British Airways Cityflyer from SOU.
TUI Holidays (Crystal Ski) and Inghams have both yet to expand SKI flights from BOH using TUI Airways BOH based aircraft, but I can see Jet2 expanding with winter SKI holidays from BOH.
SKI flights though, are mainly weekend departures.

As for Barbados, it is 'Cruise ship alley' and both P&O and Hays Travel offer a few selected BOH departures during the winter that are always a sell-out, but would a weekly winter BGI schedule work?
I doubt it, although maybe some high season Xmas departures but there are simply no planes around to do these as we have a shortage of wide body long haul aircraft in the UK, and BOH has no such based aircraft there.
All such BGI flights either position empty into BOH to operate the flight, or are flown on a W pattern.

Re other long haul destinations from BOH;
Orlando is no longer de rigueur and the USA is so expensive nowadays for family holidays.
So in the near to mid term, BOH will not see long haul charter holidays, let alone see long haul scheduled flights.
Bristol BRS no longer now has any long haul holiday charter or scheduled flights.


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