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Old 13th Apr 2024, 06:03
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Originally Posted by BOHskies
Gosh it's been many years since I posted here but started lurking again recently...
Any ideas why the KLM/Eastern Embraer came in today?
I wanted to restart the KLM rumour as it has done a little UK tour, but it looks to be at the exec base.
Welcome back to the Pprune BOH rumour mill LOL>!

OK, so jumping on the treadmill;
Personally I never knew of any rumours that KLM was ever to start services from BOH to AMS.

The only AMS service from Hurn I can think of was a short-lived attempt by Eurodirect Airlines about 30 years ago (Gosh was it really that long ago lol)
Eurodirect also were rather short-lived too

Eurodirect Airlines ATP at AMS

With KLM's strong presence at both SOU and BRS, I'm not sure that flights from BOH to AMS would see much take up?
However, that said,
KLM did increase their SOU flights to 3 x daily, and last year I flew with them from SOU using the superb Interline Connections at AMS for my onward KLM Venice, Cape Town, and Nairobi flights, saving me the slog to/from here in Dorset up to LHR, and I was able to book and pay for my KLM flights using Partner Airline Virgin Atlantic Flying Club reward points.

BOH Bournemouth Airport's expansion IMHO is very much seen as ''Holiday Airport Central''
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Old 13th Apr 2024, 06:46
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Eastern routinely lease their aircraft to other carriers for extended periods, in recent years that has included TAP, Aurigny - which didnít go well and was terminated early - and KLM now I believe. Hence the unusual link for this weekendís football charter from MAN.

Eurodirect operated a BOH/AMS and BOH/BRU schedule for a couple of seasons, I used it several times, always a Jetstream 31. They also served CDG, which I also used several times on the ATP.

TUI operated a BOH/AMS schedule in 2005/6 I think, with the B733, I also used that a few times, on one occasion I flew on a TUI B757 BOH-AMS which replaced a tech 733.

An AMS service from BOH is now highly unlikely, due slot limits at Schiphol, in my view this destination will remain the jewel established in Southamptonís crown.

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Old 13th Apr 2024, 08:05
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As has been previously stated, part of Eastern's extensive Premier League programme - nothing to do with KLM, not all their aircraft are on the KLM operation
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Old 13th Apr 2024, 12:14
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BOH have long tried to target an AMS route due to the Ďapparentí success of it when TUI and euro direct airlines operated it - it was the highest load factor based route alongside Prestwick. Not necessarily successful on ticket price though. I doubt it will ever be offered again unless the likes of easyJet were to do it.
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Old 15th Apr 2024, 18:56
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Was watching flightradar earlier and saw the EZY flight from BFS to SOU holding then divert all the way back to BFS. Was very surprised it didn't come into BOH or even LGW?
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Old 15th Apr 2024, 19:21
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Originally Posted by benm345
Was watching flightradar earlier and saw the EZY flight from BFS to SOU holding then divert all the way back to BFS. Was very surprised it didn't come into BOH or even LGW?
I'm guessing... the delay in landing at BOH then waiting for uplift, weather to clear, positioning to SOU, more uplift, then getting back to BFS would potentially put the pilots out of hours stranding them and the aircraft overseas, and would probably be way more expensive than cancelling and paying the compensation. I don't know though.
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Old 15th Apr 2024, 22:42
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Originally Posted by BOHskies
I'm guessing... the delay in landing at BOH then waiting for uplift, weather to clear, positioning to SOU, more uplift, then getting back to BFS would potentially put the pilots out of hours stranding them and the aircraft overseas, and would probably be way more expensive than cancelling and paying the compensation. I don't know though.

The usual procedure would look a bit more like this: Land BOH, drop pax, ask HQ nicely to organise a coach or two back to SOU for pax, depart BOH empty back to BFS maintaining the schedule. Half the compensation to pay and only the outbound pax severely inconvenienced. No idea in this instance though, Would love to know if they asked about a divert.
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Old 16th Apr 2024, 05:51
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Originally Posted by benm345
The usual procedure would look a bit more like this: Land BOH, drop pax, ask HQ nicely to organise a coach or two back to SOU for pax, depart BOH empty back to BFS maintaining the schedule. Half the compensation to pay and only the outbound pax severely inconvenienced. No idea in this instance though, Would love to know if they asked about a divert.
Presuming the diversions were due to weather, no compensation is due. I'd assume the diversion back would be down to not disrupting the schedule. Seems to be becoming standard practice more and more on short flights across airlines.
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Old 16th Apr 2024, 18:04
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Originally Posted by benm345
Was watching flightradar earlier and saw the EZY flight from BFS to SOU holding then divert all the way back to BFS. Was very surprised it didn't come into BOH or even LGW?
Perhaps an aircraft tech problem whereby it would have been AOG after landing. Best option for aircraft and crew, RTB?
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Old 16th Apr 2024, 20:34
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February CAA stats

Over 45,000 pax handled in February. 964,000 for the rolling 12-months.

Strong increases on Spain, Canaries, Switzerland and Poland.
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Old 21st Apr 2024, 10:40
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Bournemouth to Lyon in February only managed 439 passengers. Not a particularly successful attempt! I believe this route was only ever intended to take temporary pressure off the Geneva route due a lack of slots there on Saturdays.
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Old 24th Apr 2024, 11:43
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Tui

Waiting to see the second TUI at Bmth any ideas when itís due.
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Old 24th Apr 2024, 11:51
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Originally Posted by CLEME1
Waiting to see the second TUI at Bmth any ideas when itís due.
I would imagine from the 1st May when their remaining summer routes for 2024 start.
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Originally Posted by CLEME1
Waiting to see the second TUI at Bmth any ideas when itís due.
Second TUI aircraft due around 22nd May
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Old 26th Apr 2024, 14:38
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https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/ne...-airport-base/


Good start to the Jet 2 sales moving forward it would seem , they have an incredible support from Hays travel who are really selling the product and being the largest independent travel agency in the south itís promising for the future

Should expect Ryanair to start loading their winter flights next week although TFS , LPA & ACE already on sale

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Old 27th Apr 2024, 13:15
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Jer2 sales performance

Great news. Some of these flights seem to have healthy numbers of them already, over a year in advance. You can certainly expect to see them adding more frequency on some of the best sellers and, perhaps, even bringing in Malaga, Almeria, Larnaca, Izmir & others with a 3rd aircraft. The question is whether BOH has the ability to handle the quite sudden capacity increase.
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More Cargo Infrastructure

Iconic Project Management reporting on LinkedIn that they've been appointed to project manage cargo infrastructure improvements:

"Iconic is delighted to announce its appointment to a new aviation project at Bournemouth Airport. This cargo development project will relocate and expand cargo infrastructure in preparation for planned freight and passenger growth over the coming years. The project will be led by our Senior Project Manager, Michael Weeks. Iconic will provide comprehensive project management services, leading the project from inception, through design and construction, to completion and handover to the airport's operational teams."

Iconic Project Management ran the Southampton runway extension project by the way.

The current set up doesn't lend to being scaled up and is definitely in need of improvement. The manoeuvring to get the 340 onto the Bravo apron (it taxies off the runway onto Tango, hooks up to a tug and it's then pushed back across the runway and down Romeo before being pulled up Bravo onto the apron) and the procedure to get the cargo through building 268, the old Channel Express hangar, leaves a lot to be desired for long term sustainability and growth. Will be interesting to see what they plan to do.

Also cargo related, Maersk Air Cargo have applied for a UK AOC and are wet leading some aircraft from Titan so it seems something is in the works (I'm guessing not Bournemouth related though, presumably more flights from Birmingham). Visit archive.ph/jsEFP for more.
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Old 27th Apr 2024, 13:48
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Maersk currently operate 767's on EDI-EMA and BFS-EMA with Titan flt numbers - could be related to that?
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Old 27th Apr 2024, 14:13
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I think you're right. It must be an arrangement to enable them to operate internally in this country until the AOC is approved. They lease Maersk frames to Titan, to operate on behalf of Maersk.

I also forgot to mention earlier that Cargo First put out a note a few days ago saying they had 737F capacity at Bournemouth. Not sure what that's about.
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īIconic Project Management reporting on LinkedIn that they've been appointed to project manage cargo infrastructure improvementsí

All going northside, both the cargo apron and freight shed/warehousing etc. Will free up space by the terminal for expansion of aircraft and/or car parking etc. And will streamline the turnaround of the A340ˋs and aircraft taxying generally. My expectation is that the existing cargo hangar beside the pax terminal will be demolished.

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