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Old 29th Oct 2023, 15:25
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A quick look at CAA stats shows BOH-DUB for august achieved a load of 61% 115 pax

Not very promising especially for the month of August! Maybe a reason why itís not showing for winter this year?
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A quick look at CAA stats shows BOH-DUB for august achieved a load of 61% 115 pax

Not very promising especially for the month of August! Maybe a reason why itís not showing for winter this year?
Been removed for winter as RYR in dispute with DUB over fees and environmental issues. Also seen suggested elsewhere that this route may go head to head with EI at SOU (not sure how likely)

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Old 29th Oct 2023, 16:07
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Originally Posted by LW940
A quick look at CAA stats shows BOH-DUB for august achieved a load of 61% 115 pax

Not very promising especially for the month of August! Maybe a reason why it’s not showing for winter this year?
Check your data, I suspect your assumption on number of flights is incorrect - The route was operated twice a week in August, although I believe was temporarily increased to 3xweek for part of September/October. Normally the twice/week relates to 18 sectors/month which is 167pax/flight in August, 88% load factor flown, and likely 90%+ booked/paid As reported elsewhere RYR are in dispute with DAA (Dublin airport Company) and have cut a number of routes for the winter. More than likely it will be back at the end of March.

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Old 29th Oct 2023, 16:15
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Check your data, I suspect your assumption on number of flights is incorrect - The route was operated twice a week in August, although I believe was temporarily increased to 3xweek for part of September/October. Normally the twice/week relates to 18 sectors/month which is 167pax/flight in August, 88% load factor flown, and likely 90%+ booked/paid As reported elsewhere RYR are in dispute with DAA (Dublin airport Company) and have cut a number of routes for the winter. More than likely it will be back at the end of March.

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Appologies, I did go on the assumption of 3x weekly but it was 18 sectors.

3,402 seats
3,012 pax

certainly much better.
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Old 29th Oct 2023, 16:26
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It'd be a surprise if it isn't the weakest routes that have been cut, though.
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Old 4th Nov 2023, 15:01
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Any latest on Ryanair DUB, FAO, GRO as still nothing showing for S24?
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Old 5th Nov 2023, 14:08
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Still no Ryanair to FAO, GRO or DUB for Summer 2024 but plenty of gaps to fill for the two based aircraft so no doubt they will be loaded soon. The 2nd aircraft is from the beginning of April next year - 2nd aircraft arrived beginning of May this year.
PMI will be 9 flights a week next summer with daily flights and two flights on Monday and Thursday.

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Old 5th Nov 2023, 18:00
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Still lots of UK airports do not have a full Ryanair schedule , probably hard negotiating going on at various airports overseas going on still

It wasnít until mid November last year that Ryanair published a full summer schedule and even then new routes appeared later on

Most of the public donít even think about holidays till January anyway
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Ryanair GRO now loaded - 5 weekly Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday.
On the one hand this is a reduction from this year's 6 weekly. On the other hand, next year all days operate from the start of the summer schedule on 31/3 where as this year only the Friday flight operated from 31/3. Tuesday commenced May, Monday, Wednesday, Saturday started June and Sunday not until July. Overall, I make this an increase in total capacity on the route for next summer.

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The Gerona service has increased to daily now from April , not seen this schedule for many years although at the moment itís still not fully loaded for sale

No doubt Faro will follow soon , quite a few gaps to fill though for the 2 based aircraft so perhaps there might be a new route to follow
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EasyJet have extended the Geneva service into the month of April for the first time in many years
Flights will continue to operate on a Wednesday and Saturday

TUI will continue with the second based aircraft for S25 although at the moment no new destinations have been announced, normally April of next year
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September stats

Almost 118,000 passengers passed through the terminal in Sep, up 32% on last year. The rolling annual total stands at 907,000, well above pre-covid levels. 2024 looks set to be a +1m year with the additional 4th based 737.

Can we expect DUB to be re-loaded for the summer?
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Sharklet_321 , 1st Sep 2023 15:48
According to a contact of mine Ryanair is proposing a doubling of the number of aircraft at BOH next summer to Ď4 at leastí, were his words.

Could be in order to dissuade SOU expansion which could threaten to eat into the med demand.

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Prehaps you could ask your contact in Ryanair if the Dublin route is continuing or indeed if any new routes are being announced soon ?


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Wouldn't be surprised if they do, particularly as FR seem to have a good relationship with MAG. There's a similar rumour at BHX of an additional based aircraft (taking it to 7) and new routes to be announced ahead of the EZY base opening up in April
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MAG left many years ago itís the Rigby Group that looks after Bournemouth these days
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Prehaps you could ask your contact in Ryanair if the Dublin route is continuing or indeed if any new routes are being announced soon ?[/QUOTE]

No Dublin Routes (nor BOH Routes) have been dropped by Ryanair for next summer, but they have just announced 39 city pairs that are no longer for sale (SeanM on X, or Twitter as most know it).

DUB will more than likely be back. The latest from the airline is that 57 new 737-8200 are due for delivery before next summer peak, to add to the 530+ already in service, so ~10% growth of the fleet across the network expected.

I also heard the 4 a/c story for BOH and that the 2 could remain for winter 23/24, we already know how winter turned out. I expect RYR to grow about 10% at BOH next summer, even one more based aircraft would mean fewer away based flights. Weíll see.

Lots could change, one of the rumours thatís been around for a while and is gathering pace among the grown ups in the industry is a merger of easyJet and Jet2.

As for SOU and EZY, I am sure we will see the big 5 in Spain and Portugal (FAO, AGP, ALC, BCN and PMI) with A320, probably for summer 24, the SOU runway is still too short for Turkey and Canaries without risk of payload restrictions. A base is unlikely, with LGW and BRS both a big focus for the airline and space for growth still available there.

Whatever EZY do is unlikely to dent RYR at BOH.

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Originally Posted by Flitefone
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Prehaps you could ask your contact in Ryanair if the Dublin route is continuing or indeed if any new routes are being announced soon ?
No Dublin Routes (nor BOH Routes) have been dropped by Ryanair for next summer, but they have just announced 39 city pairs that are no longer for sale (SeanM on X, or Twitter as most know it).

DUB will more than likely be back. The latest from the airline is that 57 new 737-8200 are due for delivery before next summer peak, to add to the 530+ already in service, so ~10% growth of the fleet across the network expected.

I also heard the 4 a/c story for BOH and that the 2 could remain for winter 23/24, we already know how winter turned out. I expect RYR to grow about 10% at BOH next summer, even one more based aircraft would mean fewer away based flights. Weíll see.

Lots could change, one of the rumours thatís been around for a while and is gathering pace among the grown ups in the industry is a merger of easyJet and Jet2.

As for SOU and EZY, I am sure we will see the big 5 in Spain and Portugal (FAO, AGP, ALC, BCN and PMI) with A320, probably for summer 24, the SOU runway is still too short for Turkey and Canaries without risk of payload restrictions. A base is unlikely, with LGW and BRS both a big focus for the airline and space for growth still available there.

Whatever EZY do is unlikely to dent RYR at BOH.

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That will be the LGW that EZY had huge problems with all summer due to over capacity, cancellations and staff shortages, not to mention slot reductions they have to give back to BA this coming year
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That will be the LGW that EZY had huge problems with all summer due to over capacity, cancellations and staff shortages, not to mention slot reductions they have to give back to BA this coming year
easyJet plans published in October show that they will use their 5 destination bases (see map on slide 8) to grow, will increase use of the constrained airports - they have 80+ aircraft based at Gatwick - and deliver growth using larger aircraft which are much cheaper to operate, they're moving to 50/50 A320neo/A321neo, its all here: FY 2023 Trading update (easyjet.com)
Slides 6- 8 & 17/18 have the detail.

Much but not all of the EZY performance issues at LGW are internal to the airline itself.

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Very interesting to see the savings per seat from using bigger and more modern aircraft
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Delays to the FR 8200's more than likely mean reduced expansion for Ryanair at airports in the UK, including BOH. It's a moving target! I've no idea about DUB-BOH; perhaps even they don't know yet.
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