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From: Outer London
Genuine question, which hopefully won’t be jumped on.
Is talk of UPS reduction or relocation Brexit-related or something else? Has there been a downturn in volume for them and Fedex generally? I ask this as Amazon have significantly reduced their UK operation since Jan 1st due to Brexit.
Is talk of UPS reduction or relocation Brexit-related or something else? Has there been a downturn in volume for them and Fedex generally? I ask this as Amazon have significantly reduced their UK operation since Jan 1st due to Brexit.
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From: Stansted Airport
I don’t think FedEx has had a downturn. They have at least 1 extra flight in and out each night either a MD11 or B77F. And the TNT side of FedEx has had an extra B734 flight most nights to.
Noticed recently that at peak times FedEx will have a aircraft waiting on the taxiway as stand space isn’t available.
Noticed recently that at peak times FedEx will have a aircraft waiting on the taxiway as stand space isn’t available.
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From: bishops stortford herts
30th Anniversary of official opening of Stansted`s new terminal by HM The Queen on 15.3.91.
Since then nearly 4m flights have passed through.
Due to the pandemic traffic figures for the last 12 months reflect 1994 levels however.
Since then nearly 4m flights have passed through.
Due to the pandemic traffic figures for the last 12 months reflect 1994 levels however.
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From: Birmingham
MAG - February 2021
Feb Pax
MAN = 79,408 down 95.5%
STN = 34,967 down 98.1%
EMA = 255 down 99.9%
Rolling 12m pax
STN = 3,903,227 down 86.1%
MAN = 3,688,509 down 87.4%
EMA = 519,779 down 88.8%
Feb Cargo
EMA = 34,053 up 23.6%
STN = 19,832 up 51.9%
MAN = 4,174 down 41.8%
MAN = 79,408 down 95.5%
STN = 34,967 down 98.1%
EMA = 255 down 99.9%
Rolling 12m pax
STN = 3,903,227 down 86.1%
MAN = 3,688,509 down 87.4%
EMA = 519,779 down 88.8%
Feb Cargo
EMA = 34,053 up 23.6%
STN = 19,832 up 51.9%
MAN = 4,174 down 41.8%
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From: Outer London
My rough calculation of about 47 departures/arrivals per week on average gives about 93 pax per flight. Clearly most will be higher because Loganair will be carrying significantly less.
You do wonder why so many are travelling, and what checks are being done to make sure it’s essential.
You do wonder why so many are travelling, and what checks are being done to make sure it’s essential.
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From: Blighty
With maybe 4 or 5 international passenger departures per day, I think traffic at STN is extraordinarily low - it seems no-travel rules are being adhered to pretty strictly by the general population.
You could send police to interrogate everyone... but I'm not sure that would achieve much in reducing Covid transmission rates. I would be much more concerned at the rather larger number of flights at Heathrow
You could send police to interrogate everyone... but I'm not sure that would achieve much in reducing Covid transmission rates. I would be much more concerned at the rather larger number of flights at Heathrow
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From: Between the check-in desks
Well that doesn’t apply to Luton. Plenty of flights each day to Eastern Europe and now to holiday destinations on the Med particularly at weekends when so called essential travel away happens.
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From: bishops stortford herts
MAG/STN Planning Appeal for 43.5m pax pa.
All observers both opponents & allies appear in agreement that the local authority has failed in the Appeal which has ended more than two weeks early.
Amongst rancour within different areas of the Council concerning the Appeal MAG looks likely to press for a seven figure award of costs.
The Inspectors decision is expected in three months.
All observers both opponents & allies appear in agreement that the local authority has failed in the Appeal which has ended more than two weeks early.
Amongst rancour within different areas of the Council concerning the Appeal MAG looks likely to press for a seven figure award of costs.
The Inspectors decision is expected in three months.
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From: In the sticks
The Council is just doing its duty to oppose airport expansion, which is why it was voted into power in the first place due to a rebellion by the locals who put up alternative candidates at the local election.
Contrast that to Luton where the airport owner is the planning authority and where the locals are just ignored.
Contrast that to Luton where the airport owner is the planning authority and where the locals are just ignored.
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From: bishops stortford herts
"The Council is just doing its duty"...
Yes so much for local democracy up to the tune of a £3m bill in costs with new District Councillors involved in the farce defying advice from their own planning officers & legal council in a planning matter which had already been Council approved & which had forced the MAG Appeal.
Wonder who funds the bill for the charade?...of course every local household & business in UDC.
Perhaps some of those who are either for the airport or agnostic on the matter would rather they were "just ignored"
But seriously the situation with planning at Luton will not continue as it has in the past.
Yes so much for local democracy up to the tune of a £3m bill in costs with new District Councillors involved in the farce defying advice from their own planning officers & legal council in a planning matter which had already been Council approved & which had forced the MAG Appeal.
Wonder who funds the bill for the charade?...of course every local household & business in UDC.
Perhaps some of those who are either for the airport or agnostic on the matter would rather they were "just ignored"
But seriously the situation with planning at Luton will not continue as it has in the past.
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From: Outer London
R4U’s official position isn’t actually against the airport or even necessarily additional flights, although they do want to limit night flights. They are more interested in mitigation and solving local annoyances such as parking controls. It seemed to me that the Councillors ‘went rogue’, and I can’t see it ending well for them. Realistically they are only in power because of a Brexit backlash which saw the Tories wiped out, down to just 4 seats from having controlled the Council. R4U had 26, but 3 since defected to the Greens.
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From: bishops stortford herts
Possibly so but in essence the R4U majority acted in an undemocratic manner reversing a planning decision made by full Council six months prior to their election.
They were advised by planning officers & legal advisors that reversing the decision would be found failing & with large costs in the event of an Appeal by MAG which duly happened.
They were advised by planning officers & legal advisors that reversing the decision would be found failing & with large costs in the event of an Appeal by MAG which duly happened.
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From: bishops stortford herts
...Moving rather quickly now then perhaps.
Recently stated either a July or October start with the founder styling himself now as the Sikh MoL which may relate to an advertising association with STN but stated as still in talks with LGW/BHX/EMA too.
Working on a deal to lease up to 10 a/c.
Recently stated either a July or October start with the founder styling himself now as the Sikh MoL which may relate to an advertising association with STN but stated as still in talks with LGW/BHX/EMA too.
Working on a deal to lease up to 10 a/c.
