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Old 29th Jan 2024, 17:22
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Originally Posted by Keanaga
The Qatar freight flights at STN are on behalf of BA cargo,not there own flights, they have the odd Horse/Livestock flight on there own.

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Although the Qatar freight flights were originally operated on behalf of BA Cargo I was under the impression that the current STN flights were for Qatar Cargo. I was under the impression that the current Qatar freight flights into LHR were operated on behalf of BA Cargo.

But I stand corrected if that is the case. But nonetheless, Qatar in one way or another is already well established at STN. It therefore would not surprise me if Qatar Airways at "some point" in the future started passenger operations from Doha to STN. I can forsee "at some point" in the future Qatar Airways serving all three of Londons major airports in the same way as Emirates does.
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Old 29th Jan 2024, 17:50
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One of the possibilities mentioned was that Frontier Airlines would consider transatlantic flights from one of their hub airports such as Newark
Frontier pulled out of Newark around 2 years ago due to high costs. They have a very limited New York area presence now
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Old 29th Jan 2024, 17:58
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And Frontier quoted as talking to SNN so probably would run fights from strongholds in Denver, Dallas and Pheonix. They won't be getting XLRs until 2026 to a way off anyhow.
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Old 29th Jan 2024, 18:01
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Originally Posted by airhumberside
Frontier pulled out of Newark around 2 years ago due to high costs. They have a very limited New York area presence now
If that's the case and Frontier do eventually decide to go transatlantic it'll more likely be from their Philadelphia then. Philadelphia was actually mentioned in the article that I had read. Newark on the other hand was a bit of an artistic speculation on my part. So as you have pointed out, without any significant presence at Newark I can't see them going transatlantic from there then.
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Old 29th Jan 2024, 18:09
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Originally Posted by pabely
And Frontier quoted as talking to SNN so probably would run fights from strongholds in Denver, Dallas and Pheonix. They won't be getting XLRs until 2026 to a way off anyhow.
In the particular article that I read, it actually stated SNN. But even with the extra range of the Airbus A321XLR, I don't think that any of those US destinations you listed are within the aircrafts range from SNN. It'll more than likely be from their east coast hub at Philadelphia with connections to destinations such as those listed. I stand corrected if an Airbus A321XLR can actually fly non-stop from SNN to Dallas, Denver, or even Phoenix. I very much doubt the latter.

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Old 30th Jan 2024, 05:26
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Still BA freight.

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Old 30th Jan 2024, 06:10
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Although the Qatar freight flights were originally operated on behalf of BA Cargo I was under the impression that the current STN flights were for Qatar Cargo. I was under the impression that the current Qatar freight flights into LHR were operated on behalf of BA Cargo.

But I stand corrected if that is the case. But nonetheless, Qatar in one way or another is already well established at STN. It therefore would not surprise me if Qatar Airways at "some point" in the future started passenger operations from Doha to STN. I can forsee "at some point" in the future Qatar Airways serving all three of Londons major airports in the same way as Emirates does.
Qatar already operate many adhoc VIP movements at STN and the FBO which is used to serve extra commercial charter flights. So a relationship exists albeit MAG will want them south side of course.
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 06:54
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Originally Posted by Sotonsean
Although the Qatar freight flights were originally operated on behalf of BA Cargo I was under the impression that the current STN flights were for Qatar Cargo. I was under the impression that the current Qatar freight flights into LHR were operated on behalf of BA Cargo.

But I stand corrected if that is the case. But nonetheless, Qatar in one way or another is already well established at STN. It therefore would not surprise me if Qatar Airways at "some point" in the future started passenger operations from Doha to STN. I can forsee "at some point" in the future Qatar Airways serving all three of Londons major airports in the same way as Emirates does.
BA/IB have a merged cargo operation as IAG Cargo and partnership with Qatar (for reasons) are their preferred suppliers of all plane capacity , along with EAT and Cygnus Air .
The entire capacity is marketed via both parties to the agreement, primarily via Liege , London , Zaragoza and Madrid .
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 16:50
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Emirates

Anyone know how well Emirates are doing at STN? When this route originally first started, both flights to DXB were operated by the "Game changer" 777-300ER, featuring the airline's new First class cabin. However, towards the end of last year to date, I've noticed that these are no longer featured featured on STN flights which is a shame. Is this a case of lower demand for F at STN? I'm aware that EK are now using the 77W with new F on 1 of their LHR sectors until March, so I'm wondering whether the STN equipment change is just temporary? Also seeing on Airliners.Net that a third daily flight is likely to launch this year
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 20:23
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Originally Posted by BIZZYBOY
Qatar already operate many adhoc VIP movements at STN and the FBO which is used to serve extra commercial charter flights. So a relationship exists albeit MAG will want them south side of course.
Not sure Qatar Executive can be linked to Qatar Airways to MAG in that way. Isn't the point of a FBO that you only pay them and then your pay the airport on your behalf?
You are just as likely to see Qatar Executive aircraft at Luton and Farnborough. They just go where the business hirer wants them to go.
I'm sure if Qatar Airways want more London capacity they just approach their alliance Partner who will lease them more LGW slots.
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 21:09
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I'm sure if Qatar Airways want more London capacity they just approach their alliance Partner who will lease them more LGW slots.
Same could have been said about EK a few years ago.

Then look what happened.

Time will tell I guess.
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 22:02
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Qatar was supposedly looking at a STN launch initially for 2020 but it got pushed back to a potential 2021 launch, then of course after Covid hit never happened. I think they will launch eventually but maybe not now till STN-TP is delivered.
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 23:10
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Originally Posted by pamann
Same could have been said about EK a few years ago.

Then look what happened.

Time will tell I guess.
EK does it's own thing, QR being part of OneWorld can lease BA Slots at LGW. Same way Star & Skyteam do at LHR.
I and not doubting EK will launch one day, just the fact of Cargo & Executive units at STN will have no baring on this.
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Old 30th Jan 2024, 23:16
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Originally Posted by pabely
EK does it's own thing, QR being part of OneWorld can lease BA Slots at LGW. Same way Star & Skyteam do at LHR.
I and not doubting EK will launch one day, just the fact of Cargo & Executive units at STN will have no baring on this.
Or not doubting Qatar will launch one day for that matter
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Old 31st Jan 2024, 20:36
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FR

Ryanair to add Olbia from May.

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Old 6th Feb 2024, 21:56
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SkyAlps moving their Bolzano route from Stansted to Gatwick from mid April 2024
https://italiavola.com/2024/02/06/sk...a-meta-aprile/
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Old 20th Feb 2024, 11:26
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Supposedly the designs for the terminal extension programme at STN are being finalised now according to the recent press release. Hopefully it won't be much longer before we find out, looking forward to seeing images Also hoping some of the satellite and gate areas will (finally) receive a well needed upgrade!
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Old 28th Feb 2024, 13:57
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Stansted to Cape Verde

So just stumbled across this online

seems they will be operating a series of flights from Stansted to Cape Verde , canít find any schedules etc though

https://www.krioulaexperience.com
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Old 28th Feb 2024, 15:12
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Originally Posted by Paulesx
So just stumbled across this online

seems they will be operating a series of flights from Stansted to Cape Verde , canít find any schedules etc though

https://www.krioulaexperience.com
Canít see this actually happening unless Cabo Verde Airlines launch a scheduled service and they buy in seats. Otherwise Iíd put money on it not happening with this unknown tour operator.
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Old 28th Feb 2024, 15:44
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Might be right , although this shows on their website, sure will find out soon enough , perhaps they have an allocation series for the charter.


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