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Old 27th May 2022, 09:44
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Originally Posted by vectisman View Post
I am of the opinion that is is an error. These flights maybe those which Virgin had the slots for if they had returned to Gatwick.
The CEO made it quite clear a few weeks ago that Virgin had no plans to run to Gatwick in 2022. Very non committal for 2023 too. In fact they may find it hard to ever come back if BA continue to expand their Caribbean and North American routes, plus Norse International setting up shop. Personally I believe with Heathrow becoming more expensive they may lose some of their competitive edge when trying to attract some of their former Gatwick leisure customers back who may be more price sensitive. However that’s just a personal view
Pre-Covid they were sending up to 5 or 6 wide bodies a day to leisure destinations from Gatwick. Not all of that market will follow them to Heathrow. BA is maintaining double daily to Orlando for example from Gatwick this Summer plus another daily from Heathrow. Their Caribbean flights are very profitable too. Plus somewhere like Cancun is now daily year round which is an increase from 2019.
I would like to know what Virgin have done with their Gatwick slots. We know that BA have leased some of theirs out until they are required again but I can see nothing concerning Virgin. Have they simply given them up? I have asked on several other forums but no information has been forthcoming.
I think the CEO mentioned recently that they still have ownership of their slot portfolio at LGW, as confirmed in this recent article:
https://simpleflying.com/virgin-atla...k-return-2022/

"Traditionally, we have flown leisure routes out of Gatwick. We have slots at Gatwick and we would like to think there is an opportunity for Gatwick. But it’s not this year."

What VS are doing with them in the interim, however, largely remains unknown. Presumably leasing them to another carrier at LGW, but not sure which one? Would definitely love to know more.
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Old 27th May 2022, 09:45
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I see from their website that Norse Atlantic has 2 routes on sale now from Lgw, New York and Oslo, daily flights to each. Is the Oslo route just a slot sitter?
Fantastic news- will be great seeing their 789s at LGW! Anyone know which terminal they'll be using?
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Old 28th May 2022, 12:24
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Lots of images of very long queues at LGW for BA check in. What is the issue? Just short of staff?
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Old 28th May 2022, 12:52
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Lots of images of very long queues at LGW for BA check in. What is the issue? Just short of staff?
Still dont really get why people are surprised by this. Upcoming bank holidays adding to mix.

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Old 28th May 2022, 13:04
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Still dont really get why people are surprised by this. Upcoming bank holidays adding to mix.
Totally agree.
Holiday times have always been busy. Recovery after two awful years will not be easy.

Today people expect everything 100% all the time plus everything on demand. The real world has never operated like that and never will.
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Old 28th May 2022, 13:38
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Originally Posted by vectisman View Post
Totally agree.
Holiday times have always been busy. Recovery after two awful years will not be easy.

Today people expect everything 100% all the time plus everything on demand. The real world has never operated like that and never will.
Probably because many airlines are charging extremely high prices. Plus half the carriers spent last year telling us they were ready. Finally if Ryanair can manage to operate their schedules pretty well without all of these constant problems then it must be possible.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 08:33
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BA planned short term cancellation of ISB until W22. Will it ever come back? (DOH and JFK will be hit too).
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 08:41
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
BA planned short term cancellation of ISB until W22. Will it ever come back? (DOH and JFK will be hit too).
Not really surprised about DOH, now with QR returning to LGW, are they/BA planning on reinstating LGW-DOH once the winter timetables come online, or will it move back to LHR? With JFK, that's a shame, seeing as its only just been reinstated, and provides some nice competition for JetBlue, and soon, Norse.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 10:08
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
BA planned short term cancellation of ISB until W22. Will it ever come back? (DOH and JFK will be hit too).
They’ve been pretty heavy on cabin crew hiring for the LGW 777 fleet recently, but courses not starting until September due to LHR courses taking priority, so assume this may be a factor.

JFK and DOH pax can easily be transferred to other services, ISB is low yielding and BA know cancelling that won’t create as much negative publicity as cancelling kids summer holidays to Orlando.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 10:49
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Gatwick New York resumes normal service on Monday. Doha is still inbound normally. Could be taking cargo outbound. Doha also resumes normal service on Monday. They must be recruiting more cabin crew for a reason though.
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I believe some 777 maintenance ends this weekend!
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 19:53
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Hope the BA Doha flight isn't affected in the coming weeks as I'm booked on it !
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Old 13th Jun 2022, 09:57
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Looks like JetBlue is going 2 daily to JFK from next May according to their site.
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Old 15th Jun 2022, 14:17
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Air Asia X

Air Asia X is reportedly looking to return to LGW later this year, this time with an LGW-DXB-KUL routing using A333s. Apparently D7 already has secured slots at LGW. Will be interesting to see if/how this turns out.

source: https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...n-return-soon/
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Old 17th Jun 2022, 09:38
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Gatwick in the news today for all the wrong reasons…

The first story is a sad read.

Disabled easyJet passenger falls to his death on escalator at Gatwick Airport

Gatwick cuts summer flights after staff shortages
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Old 17th Jun 2022, 10:06
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Is it just a bit of a coincidence that Gatwick have made this announcement 14 days before 1 July, thus giving airlines a way to avoid EU261 liability ?
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Old 17th Jun 2022, 10:07
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‘Staff shortages were not a factor in this incident as has been claimed. It is normal for one staff member to disembark three passengers who require assistance by taking them one at a time the short distance to the waiting buggy.
So it's 'normal' to have one staff member for three pax? Good job they didn't have to deal with Wardair.
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Old 17th Jun 2022, 13:00
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Arrived into LGW about midnight last night, no delays getting off the aircraft, through immigration, receiving baggage, getting the bus to Long Term, or anything really!

When we left a week previously, North Terminal was rammed at 4am, but straight through (EZY) bag drop, security and 0610 flight departed on time.

Just thought I'd record my experience as the media hate a positive story.

Have just seen the sad story of the fatality, those escalators (for the bridge) are very high

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Old 17th Jun 2022, 13:10
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Originally Posted by Wycombe View Post
Arrived into LGW about midnight last night, no delays getting off the aircraft, through immigration, receiving baggage, getting the bus to Long Term, or anything really!

When we left a week previously, North Terminal was rammed at 4am, but straight through (EZY) bag drop, security and 0610 flight departed on time.

Just thought I'd record my experience as the media hate a positive story.

Have just seen the sad story of the fatality, those escalators (for the bridge) are very high
Suspect the critical part there is arrived at ‘midnight’…
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
Suspect the critical part there is arrived at ‘midnight’…
At this time of year there are a steady stream of arrivals at LGW into the small hours.

I remember, in pre-covid times, waiting a lot longer late at night for the baggage belt to start moving!
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