Wikiposts
Search
Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

Gatwick-3

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 30th Jun 2022, 11:38
  #761 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BMA
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by True Blue
BA is returning Orlando to Lgw and cancelling Lhr.
LGW already had MCO flights. It will also gain additional flights. The LHR flight will become seasonal. It’s due to return next March with a 787.
BA318 is online now  
Old 30th Jun 2022, 11:52
  #762 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: UK
Age: 59
Posts: 2,711
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by BA318
LGW already had MCO flights. It will also gain additional flights. The LHR flight will become seasonal. It’s due to return next March with a 787.
2 daily currently LGW-MCO, does that mean it goes to 3 (or is this for W22)?
Wycombe is offline  
Old 30th Jun 2022, 12:49
  #763 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BMA
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Wycombe
2 daily currently LGW-MCO, does that mean it goes to 3 (or is this for W22)?
W22. BA isn't showing the change yet but it seems LGW-MCO will be 2 daily in winter. https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...lando-flights/
BA318 is online now  
Old 30th Jun 2022, 13:18
  #764 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ballymena
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm not sure a flight from Lgw had been planned. There was no winter flight until today, as far as I could see.
True Blue is offline  
Old 30th Jun 2022, 13:26
  #765 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Italy
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MCO

Originally Posted by True Blue
BA is returning Orlando to Lgw and cancelling Lhr.
Seems sensible to consolidate MCO to LGW, given that it's always been a more leisure-focused destination.

What I'd be interested to find out is whether, by 2023, we might see VS back at LGW again? MCO, along with Virgin's Caribbean network had always been based at Gatwick prior to 2020, but I'm wondering whether these routes might return to LGW, allowing VS to (a) utilise their LGW slots with their own metal and (b) optimise their LHR slot utilisation with less-leisure focused routes (JFK, LAX, AUS, SFO, IAD to name a few)? Surely they could make LGW work again with some leisure-configured A339s or the existing A333 fleet?
JW95 is offline  
Old 30th Jun 2022, 13:52
  #766 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BMA
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by True Blue
I'm not sure a flight from Lgw had been planned. There was no winter flight until today, as far as I could see.
There was. The article terms the new service an additional flight (hence going twice daily). MCO was in the first batch of routes to return to LGW and has stayed since running parallel with LHR for some time.
BA318 is online now  
Old 1st Jul 2022, 00:17
  #767 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: London
Age: 42
Posts: 1,559
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by JW95
Seems sensible to consolidate MCO to LGW, given that it's always been a more leisure-focused destination.

What I'd be interested to find out is whether, by 2023, we might see VS back at LGW again? MCO, along with Virgin's Caribbean network had always been based at Gatwick prior to 2020, but I'm wondering whether these routes might return to LGW, allowing VS to (a) utilise their LGW slots with their own metal and (b) optimise their LHR slot utilisation with less-leisure focused routes (JFK, LAX, AUS, SFO, IAD to name a few)? Surely they could make LGW work again with some leisure-configured A339s or the existing A333 fleet?
Both Virgin and BA can easily make LGW work as they had a rather cosy duopoly on a lot of routes. But Virgin have downsized with the B747s leaving and they might need their truncated fleet to hang onto their LHR slots, as there's some unwillingness in ATL for Delta to do too much of the JV flying as it's more expensive. Norse returning to LGW may be an incentive to them returning.
Skipness One Foxtrot is offline  
Old 1st Jul 2022, 09:15
  #768 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Both Virgin and BA can easily make LGW work as they had a rather cosy duopoly on a lot of routes. But Virgin have downsized with the B747s leaving and they might need their truncated fleet to hang onto their LHR slots, as there's some unwillingness in ATL for Delta to do too much of the JV flying as it's more expensive. Norse returning to LGW may be an incentive to them returning.
Yes. It will be interesting to see whether Norse will have any impact our whether the economy will crash and make it difficult for them.
Mrbonfire is offline  
Old 5th Jul 2022, 20:12
  #769 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ballymena
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I see Turkish Airlines is adding 3 flights per week during the winter season to Istanbul, the extra flights operating on Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday.
True Blue is offline  
Old 6th Jul 2022, 14:19
  #770 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Here and there
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Gatwick better triple the amount of leader vehicles if Turkish are increasing presence.
tubby linton is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2022, 09:45
  #771 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Near Gatwick
Posts: 479
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good news for Gatwick

copied from their Facebook page


This autumn you can fly from Gatwick 🇬🇧 direct to #Hanoi 🇻🇳 onboard Bamboo Airways ✈

Weekly flights start on 30 October, with onward connections to destinations across Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, South Korea and Taipei
Charley B is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2022, 10:17
  #772 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Italy
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Absolutely excellent!

Originally Posted by Charley B
Good news for Gatwick

copied from their Facebook page


This autumn you can fly from Gatwick 🇬🇧 direct to #Hanoi 🇻🇳 onboard Bamboo Airways ✈

Weekly flights start on 30 October, with onward connections to destinations across Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, South Korea and Taipei
Fantastic news- and great to see a connection to the Far East reinstated from Gatwick! Of course, this won't be the first time HAN has been served from LGW, having previously been flown by Vietnam Airlines on their 772 between 2011 and 2015. Hoping that Bamboo Airways can make it work from LGW, and that it's here to last.
JW95 is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2022, 16:40
  #773 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: London
Age: 42
Posts: 1,559
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Presumably, this is the existing LHR service moving to LGW, no winter slots or LHR costs starting to bite?
Skipness One Foxtrot is offline  
Old 7th Jul 2022, 17:07
  #774 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: UK
Age: 53
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Presumably, this is the existing LHR service moving to LGW
It is. Deckchairs. I doubt it will last will be my own thoughts.
VickersVicount is offline  
Old 9th Jul 2022, 09:03
  #775 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Italy
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bamboo Airways LGW - which terminal?

Press release RE. LGW now updated on Bamboo's webpages. Interestingly, they mention that preparations are also underway to launch an LGW-SGN route, to be served in addition to the Hanoi service. No mention of terminal at LGW anywhere on their website though- any ideas which one they are likely to use?
JW95 is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2022, 00:24
  #776 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Southampton
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
I'm really surprised that Bamboo Airways chose to serve London Gatwick along with London Heathrow. I would have thought that they would have chosen to fly to Paris instead. The airline only has two Boeing 787-9 currently in service with two more to be delivered by October 2022.

I wonder how Bamboo Airways entering the London and Frankfurt markets have affected the national carrier Vietnam Airlines.

With Bamboo Airways planned international expansion in Europe and Australia I can't see four Boeing 787-9 aircraft covering it all. Bamboo Airways are also trying to replicate Vietnam Airlines in making both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City into major transfer hubs. Is the market big enough to warrant two major Vietnamese long haul airlines. South Korea have come to the conclusion that having two long haul airlines serving the country is not feasible long term. It's one of the major factors for the anticipated merger between Asiana and Korean Air.


Last edited by Sotonsean; 10th Jul 2022 at 19:31.
Sotonsean is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2022, 07:26
  #777 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: BMA
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
I'm really surprised that Bamboo Airways chose to serve London Gatwick along with London Heathrow. I would have thought that they would have chosen to fly to Paris instead. The airline only has two Boeing 787-9 currently in service with two more to be delivered by October 2022.

I wonder how Bamboo Airways entering the London and Frankfurt markets have affected the national carrier Vietnam Airlines.

With Bamboo Airways planned international expansion in Europe and Australia I can't see four Boeing 787-9 aircraft covering it all. Bamboo Airways are also trying to replicate Vietnam Airlines in making both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City into major transfer hubs. Is the market big enough to warrant two major Vietnamese long haul airlines. South Korea have come to the conclusion that having two long haul airlines serving the country is not feasible long term. It's one of the major factors for the anticipated merger with Korean Air.
It’s a once weekly service and my understanding is that it’s moving from LHR to LGW not both being served.
BA318 is online now  
Old 10th Jul 2022, 07:37
  #778 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Italy
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Sotonsean
I'm really surprised that Bamboo Airways chose to serve London Gatwick along with London Heathrow. I would have thought that they would have chosen to fly to Paris instead. The airline only has two Boeing 787-9 currently in service with two more to be delivered by October 2022.

I wonder how Bamboo Airways entering the London and Frankfurt markets have affected the national carrier Vietnam Airlines.

With Bamboo Airways planned international expansion in Europe and Australia I can't see four Boeing 787-9 aircraft covering it all. Bamboo Airways are also trying to replicate Vietnam Airlines in making both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City into major transfer hubs. Is the market big enough to warrant two major Vietnamese long haul airlines. South Korea have come to the conclusion that having two long haul airlines serving the country is not feasible long term. It's one of the major factors for the anticipated merger with Korean Air.
LHR will no longer be served by Bamboo come October. LGW replaces it. Expect SGN to be served alongside HAN from LGW soon.
JW95 is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2022, 19:43
  #779 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Southampton
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by BA318
It’s a once weekly service and my understanding is that it’s moving from LHR to LGW not both being served.
​​​​​​Bamboo Airways are currently flying into London Heathrow four times a week, it seems this extra flight from London Gatwick is an added flight due to not obtaining the requested slots at London Heathrow.

Are we on the understanding that Bamboo Airways will relocate completely to London Gatwick in the future as I've not read anything to confirm this.

Although I'm sure that Bamboo Airways would like to fully remain at London Heathrow the airlines current slots at the airport might not be permanent hence the suggestions that they might be moving completely to London Gatwick. The latter sounds more realistic as it makes absolutely no sense for a small south Asian airline to to serve two London airports especially as their European coverage is very small.
Sotonsean is offline  
Old 10th Jul 2022, 19:47
  #780 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Southampton
Posts: 124
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by BA318
It’s a once weekly service and my understanding is that it’s moving from LHR to LGW not both being served.
​​​​​​I should have read your post before I posted mine.

​​​​​​So it's definitely confirmed then that Bamboo Airways are to fully relocate to London Gatwick?

​​​​​Good news for London Gatwick if that's the case although I've not personally seen or read anything regarding this even on Bamboo Airways or London Gatwick social media accounts.
Sotonsean is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.