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[BA318]

Originally Posted by True Blue

BA is returning Orlando to Lgw and cancelling Lhr.

LGW already had MCO flights. It will also gain additional flights. The LHR flight will become seasonal. It’s due to return next March with a 787.

[Wycombe]

Originally Posted by BA318

LGW already had MCO flights. It will also gain additional flights. The LHR flight will become seasonal. It’s due to return next March with a 787.

2 daily currently LGW-MCO, does that mean it goes to 3 (or is this for W22)?

[BA318]

Originally Posted by Wycombe

2 daily currently LGW-MCO, does that mean it goes to 3 (or is this for W22)?

W22. BA isn't showing the change yet but it seems LGW-MCO will be 2 daily in winter. https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...lando-flights/

[True Blue]

I'm not sure a flight from Lgw had been planned. There was no winter flight until today, as far as I could see.

[JW95]

MCO

Originally Posted by True Blue

BA is returning Orlando to Lgw and cancelling Lhr.

Seems sensible to consolidate MCO to LGW, given that it's always been a more leisure-focused destination.

What I'd be interested to find out is whether, by 2023, we might see VS back at LGW again? MCO, along with Virgin's Caribbean network had always been based at Gatwick prior to 2020, but I'm wondering whether these routes might return to LGW, allowing VS to (a) utilise their LGW slots with their own metal and (b) optimise their LHR slot utilisation with less-leisure focused routes (JFK, LAX, AUS, SFO, IAD to name a few)? Surely they could make LGW work again with some leisure-configured A339s or the existing A333 fleet?

[BA318]

Originally Posted by True Blue

I'm not sure a flight from Lgw had been planned. There was no winter flight until today, as far as I could see.

There was. The article terms the new service an additional flight (hence going twice daily). MCO was in the first batch of routes to return to LGW and has stayed since running parallel with LHR for some time.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by JW95

Seems sensible to consolidate MCO to LGW, given that it's always been a more leisure-focused destination.

What I'd be interested to find out is whether, by 2023, we might see VS back at LGW again? MCO, along with Virgin's Caribbean network had always been based at Gatwick prior to 2020, but I'm wondering whether these routes might return to LGW, allowing VS to (a) utilise their LGW slots with their own metal and (b) optimise their LHR slot utilisation with less-leisure focused routes (JFK, LAX, AUS, SFO, IAD to name a few)? Surely they could make LGW work again with some leisure-configured A339s or the existing A333 fleet?

Both Virgin and BA can easily make LGW work as they had a rather cosy duopoly on a lot of routes. But Virgin have downsized with the B747s leaving and they might need their truncated fleet to hang onto their LHR slots, as there's some unwillingness in ATL for Delta to do too much of the JV flying as it's more expensive. Norse returning to LGW may be an incentive to them returning.

[Mrbonfire]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot

Both Virgin and BA can easily make LGW work as they had a rather cosy duopoly on a lot of routes. But Virgin have downsized with the B747s leaving and they might need their truncated fleet to hang onto their LHR slots, as there's some unwillingness in ATL for Delta to do too much of the JV flying as it's more expensive. Norse returning to LGW may be an incentive to them returning.

Yes. It will be interesting to see whether Norse will have any impact our whether the economy will crash and make it difficult for them.

[True Blue]

I see Turkish Airlines is adding 3 flights per week during the winter season to Istanbul, the extra flights operating on Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday.

[tubby linton]

Gatwick better triple the amount of leader vehicles if Turkish are increasing presence.

[Charley B]

Good news for Gatwick

copied from their Facebook page


This autumn you can fly from Gatwick 🇬🇧 direct to #Hanoi 🇻🇳 onboard Bamboo Airways ✈

Weekly flights start on 30 October, with onward connections to destinations across Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, South Korea and Taipei

[JW95]

Absolutely excellent!

Originally Posted by Charley B

Good news for Gatwick

copied from their Facebook page


This autumn you can fly from Gatwick 🇬🇧 direct to #Hanoi 🇻🇳 onboard Bamboo Airways ✈

Weekly flights start on 30 October, with onward connections to destinations across Vietnam, Australia, Singapore, Japan, South Korea and Taipei

Fantastic news- and great to see a connection to the Far East reinstated from Gatwick! Of course, this won't be the first time HAN has been served from LGW, having previously been flown by Vietnam Airlines on their 772 between 2011 and 2015. Hoping that Bamboo Airways can make it work from LGW, and that it's here to last.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Presumably, this is the existing LHR service moving to LGW, no winter slots or LHR costs starting to bite?

[VickersVicount]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot

Presumably, this is the existing LHR service moving to LGW

It is. Deckchairs. I doubt it will last will be my own thoughts.

[JW95]

Bamboo Airways LGW - which terminal?

Press release RE. LGW now updated on Bamboo's webpages. Interestingly, they mention that preparations are also underway to launch an LGW-SGN route, to be served in addition to the Hanoi service. No mention of terminal at LGW anywhere on their website though- any ideas which one they are likely to use?

[Sotonsean]

I'm really surprised that Bamboo Airways chose to serve London Gatwick along with London Heathrow. I would have thought that they would have chosen to fly to Paris instead. The airline only has two Boeing 787-9 currently in service with two more to be delivered by October 2022.

I wonder how Bamboo Airways entering the London and Frankfurt markets have affected the national carrier Vietnam Airlines.

With Bamboo Airways planned international expansion in Europe and Australia I can't see four Boeing 787-9 aircraft covering it all. Bamboo Airways are also trying to replicate Vietnam Airlines in making both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City into major transfer hubs. Is the market big enough to warrant two major Vietnamese long haul airlines. South Korea have come to the conclusion that having two long haul airlines serving the country is not feasible long term. It's one of the major factors for the anticipated merger between Asiana and Korean Air.

[BA318]

Originally Posted by Sotonsean

I'm really surprised that Bamboo Airways chose to serve London Gatwick along with London Heathrow. I would have thought that they would have chosen to fly to Paris instead. The airline only has two Boeing 787-9 currently in service with two more to be delivered by October 2022.

I wonder how Bamboo Airways entering the London and Frankfurt markets have affected the national carrier Vietnam Airlines.

With Bamboo Airways planned international expansion in Europe and Australia I can't see four Boeing 787-9 aircraft covering it all. Bamboo Airways are also trying to replicate Vietnam Airlines in making both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City into major transfer hubs. Is the market big enough to warrant two major Vietnamese long haul airlines. South Korea have come to the conclusion that having two long haul airlines serving the country is not feasible long term. It's one of the major factors for the anticipated merger with Korean Air.

It’s a once weekly service and my understanding is that it’s moving from LHR to LGW not both being served.

[JW95]

Originally Posted by Sotonsean

I'm really surprised that Bamboo Airways chose to serve London Gatwick along with London Heathrow. I would have thought that they would have chosen to fly to Paris instead. The airline only has two Boeing 787-9 currently in service with two more to be delivered by October 2022.

I wonder how Bamboo Airways entering the London and Frankfurt markets have affected the national carrier Vietnam Airlines.

With Bamboo Airways planned international expansion in Europe and Australia I can't see four Boeing 787-9 aircraft covering it all. Bamboo Airways are also trying to replicate Vietnam Airlines in making both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City into major transfer hubs. Is the market big enough to warrant two major Vietnamese long haul airlines. South Korea have come to the conclusion that having two long haul airlines serving the country is not feasible long term. It's one of the major factors for the anticipated merger with Korean Air.

LHR will no longer be served by Bamboo come October. LGW replaces it. Expect SGN to be served alongside HAN from LGW soon.

[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by BA318

It’s a once weekly service and my understanding is that it’s moving from LHR to LGW not both being served.

​​​​​​Bamboo Airways are currently flying into London Heathrow four times a week, it seems this extra flight from London Gatwick is an added flight due to not obtaining the requested slots at London Heathrow.

Are we on the understanding that Bamboo Airways will relocate completely to London Gatwick in the future as I've not read anything to confirm this.

Although I'm sure that Bamboo Airways would like to fully remain at London Heathrow the airlines current slots at the airport might not be permanent hence the suggestions that they might be moving completely to London Gatwick. The latter sounds more realistic as it makes absolutely no sense for a small south Asian airline to to serve two London airports especially as their European coverage is very small.

[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by BA318

It’s a once weekly service and my understanding is that it’s moving from LHR to LGW not both being served.

​​​​​​I should have read your post before I posted mine.

​​​​​​So it's definitely confirmed then that Bamboo Airways are to fully relocate to London Gatwick?

​​​​​Good news for London Gatwick if that's the case although I've not personally seen or read anything regarding this even on Bamboo Airways or London Gatwick social media accounts.