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Old 4th Sep 2021, 15:19
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Pre covid the LGW short haul fleet was -

A319's ex BMI x 10 DBCA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/J & K
A320's in the GAT Series x 10 GATH/J/K/L/M/N/P/R/S/U
A320's ex BMI/BMED x 6 MIDO/S/T/X/Y & MEDK
A320's in the EUU Series x 6 (Off the top of my head I cant remember which 6 but it was the back end of EUU series of aircraft)

So total was 32 A/C
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Old 4th Sep 2021, 16:01
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spot on, the EUU aircraft were

S, U, V, W, Y, Z
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Old 4th Sep 2021, 20:21
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G-EUUT was LGW based pre COVID as well.
I heard the ex LHR A320s were coverted to bulk loading? Is the G-GAT* fleet containerised at all?
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Old 4th Sep 2021, 20:46
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the G-GAT* and G-MID* A320s are loose loaded. I think G-MEDK may have been containerised

the G-EUU* birds that came down to LGW in summer were all containerised
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 20:11
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Gatwick - Enter Air & Titan ?

Any idea whom the Tour Operator is that is using Polish Enter Air - U.K. to Greece

And who Titan is operating for? They are clearly package holidays. Good effort in getting volumes if they are selling
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 20:27
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Sunvil charter a Enter Air aircraft for the summer for their Greece routes. Not sure on Titan though
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 09:41
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Thanks Sunshine.

It seems the UK will be a social dumping ground for the foreseeable future. EU and Non-EU carriers allowed to operate UK routes with no reciprocal arrangements / rules

Any further information on these charters would be welcome
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 15:40
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That I’m afraid is a result of the electorate getting what they voted for. Enter Air by the way are EU, I’m not aware of any non-EU airlines operating any UK-EU routes.
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 21:56
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yup

Any ideas on who Titan are working for out of LGW this summer?
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 22:15
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what Titan routes are you referring to?
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 22:26
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I think it is Neilson
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 20:17
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New route and new airline
Virtual airline SkyAlps, operated by Luxwing, to fly to Bolzano in the Dolomite mountains in the far north of Italy from 15 December 2021. Lead-in price is 135 euros one way. Aircraft seem to be Dash 8, ex-Flybe
Schedule seems to be 1x weekly on Wednesdays. Not sure who the target audience is with that timetable

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Old 8th Sep 2021, 22:38
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Clearly skiers but weekend would surely have been better. It’s winter sport paradise around there.

Bolzano is a lovely city which British visitors may find surprisingly touristy - eg open top bus tours etc - given it is completely off the radar here. It’s also very different to typical Italian cities, not just in the language (German) but in how clean it is with higher-end shops. There’s loads to do in the surrounding area. I’ve wondered why no one has bothered operating there before, even if just TUI/Neilson etc winter packages. Summer is also a good time to go.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 23:06
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Ssshhh, don't tell anyone. They can stay at the lake down the road.
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 10:01
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Bolzano's runway is (or was) surprisingly short - I doubt you could reliably get an A320 or B737 family aircraft in there without being prone to weather diversions, particularly with an Alps+winter constraint. That said, a more natural home in London for a sub-100 pax aircraft, particularly at high-ish leisure fares, is maybe London City rather than Gatwick
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 11:27
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From Bolzano to the ski resorts (the nearest possibly being Selva or Predazzo) is at best 1 1/4, when it’s easily accessible from Innsbruck at just about a couple of hours. In a similar way lots of visitors to Florence fly into Pisa.
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 13:42
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There are Alpine ski resorts local to Bolzano / Bozen but they aren't on the agenda for UK tour operators. The valleys of Pustertal and Antholzertal are good for cross country skiing and Biathlon, neither of which are popular winter sports for Brits.
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Old 11th Sep 2021, 13:55
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I'm sure Bolzano was served from MAN a number of years ago - I remember having to look up where it was! Austrian or InterSky Dash-8?
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appears there may also be a Sunday service too - but no outward flights loaded for Sundays yet
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Dash 8; Long way in a noisy aircraft with hardly a great deal of space for skies in the boot?
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