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Two things stand out:
1) The term - they couldn't come to an agreement for a 'BA-branded' carrier. Does that mean the alternative is a non-BA branded carrier?
2) 'Alternative uses'.
1) The term - they couldn't come to an agreement for a 'BA-branded' carrier. Does that mean the alternative is a non-BA branded carrier?
2) 'Alternative uses'.
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I'm assuming a fair few Gatwick crew are on furlough currently. With that ending next week I wonder what this means for their future?
I suspect BA are using that threat as a way of strongarming the union into accepting the new severely downgraded Ts&Cs (bases on the figures I saw anyway)
I suspect BA are using that threat as a way of strongarming the union into accepting the new severely downgraded Ts&Cs (bases on the figures I saw anyway)
There hasn't been a feeder flight from MAN for years.
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Looking for a positive spin: At least mgmt now don't have to worry about spending all that money on runway expansion ... 
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true from the wording of what I have seen but to withdraw flight from sale is pretty drastic action
had flights still be for sale I would see this as a tactic but not now it’s past that stage
had flights still be for sale I would see this as a tactic but not now it’s past that stage
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Ryanair have played the "take flights off sale for a week and make airport sweat while we negotiate" tactic. If journalists ask questions, it can be put down to a "technical fault which we are working hard to resolve"
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The problem is that no other IAG brand has the London presence or clout of British Airways. Aer Lingus tried Europe from Gatwick and stopped. Vueling isn't that popular or well known in the UK.
Personally I would rather fly easyjet than Vueling.
In my non expert opinion this move is a mistake both in the short and long term. LHR is looking to put up charges to airlines considerably to recoup losses. The European leisure market is predicted to recover faster than long haul. That
leisure market is what Gatwick does well. Trying to get back in to Gatwick in a couple of years may well be difficult too.
British Airways will not be able to offer such competitive fares/holidays for its holidays from Heathrow, as it is a much higher cost airport. I don't believe for one minute that all of BA's Gatwick customers will follow it down the road to LHR.
We shall have to see what the plans are for BA long haul at Gatwick. I have been hearing anything from 11 to 15 airframes. If Heathrow does raise charges for long haul travel, there may well be move moves of routes that have a higher amount of point to point traffic.
Personally I would rather fly easyjet than Vueling.
In my non expert opinion this move is a mistake both in the short and long term. LHR is looking to put up charges to airlines considerably to recoup losses. The European leisure market is predicted to recover faster than long haul. That
leisure market is what Gatwick does well. Trying to get back in to Gatwick in a couple of years may well be difficult too.
British Airways will not be able to offer such competitive fares/holidays for its holidays from Heathrow, as it is a much higher cost airport. I don't believe for one minute that all of BA's Gatwick customers will follow it down the road to LHR.
We shall have to see what the plans are for BA long haul at Gatwick. I have been hearing anything from 11 to 15 airframes. If Heathrow does raise charges for long haul travel, there may well be move moves of routes that have a higher amount of point to point traffic.
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The Manchester Gatwick is intended as a feeder flight for long haul at Gatwick. BA have today more or less confirmed it will go ahead as will a feeder service from Glasgow.
The Manchester Gatwick is intended as a feeder flight for long haul at Gatwick. BA have today more or less confirmed it will go ahead as will a feeder service from Glasgow.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/briti...covid-12415115
Based short haul at LGW is finally gone.
MAN-LGW is intended for the Pakistan routes moved to LGW, as soon as PIA get back into MAN it'll be gone again. There's almost zero way to make that route work on connections only I think.
Not a criticism, gotta make hay while the sun shines, but the great untapped MAN-LGW market is something of a myth.
Based short haul at LGW is finally gone.
MAN-LGW is intended for the Pakistan routes moved to LGW, as soon as PIA get back into MAN it'll be gone again. There's almost zero way to make that route work on connections only I think.
Not a criticism, gotta make hay while the sun shines, but the great untapped MAN-LGW market is something of a myth.
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To be fair, this was supposed to happen pre-covid but got suspended. Strange that flights are on sale but no one has actually told the Manchester ground staff. 😁
To be fair, this was supposed to happen pre-covid but got suspended. Strange that flights are on sale but no one has actually told the Manchester ground staff. 😁
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