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Old 31st Jul 2022, 20:41
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Originally Posted by VickersVicount View Post
I couldn’t recall if the ultimate fleet plan was to replace everything with ATRs… was that the case? The Emb145 I was on this week was ‘knackered’ with bits of seats duct taped, badly worn leather, blue ex BMI external paint showing, ‘painted’ fold down tables and a whistling door seal. Very swift trip though and sprightly performance which as a jet I doubt could be matched by ATR. Hopefully ATR has bigger overhead bins for what was apparently allowed on…
The initial press releases in 2018 suggested that eventually this would be the case.

Recent video interviews I had seen from 2021 mentioned that they see a purpose for both alongside eachother due to sector lengths etc. The 135s were in the process of being sold recently but G-SAJH was recently also in the paint shop to receive a Tartan tail, Red engines etc so the frames to remain are seeing some investment.

A bit of work inside wouldn’t go as miss as you’ve said however. I remember G-SAJG being particularly poor back in its old BMI days.
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Old 31st Jul 2022, 22:19
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I wonder if they might consider the 70-seat version of the new Embraer turboprop once it has been launched (next year), it looks like it could strike a good balance between economics and performance. Seems like they could be a good choice as a long term replacement for the ERJs once they reach the 30 year old mark.
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Old 31st Jul 2022, 22:49
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Originally Posted by mullac30 View Post
I wonder if they might consider the 70-seat version of the new Embraer turboprop once it has been launched (next year), it looks like it could strike a good balance between economics and performance. Seems like they could be a good choice as a long term replacement for the ERJs once they reach the 30 year old mark.
Quite a jump in capacity from ERJs for something brand new which would be a huge investment that I doubt they could afford. Can’t immediately think of a similar size little jet now or pending (if indeed a jet is needed for longer routes)
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Old 1st Aug 2022, 13:00
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Last E135 leaving the operation this month. E145s will be around for the foreseeable and project starting/started around interior refurb and basic weight reductions for the 145 aircraft - understand it's a bit more complicated than it sounds due to having to refurb seats instead of being able to get new ones as for the Saab 340s a few years ago.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 21:16
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Slightly ‘woke’ fly on the wall BBC3 style Loganair fly on the wall show on iPlayer ‘Sky High Club’ something different and some nice aerial shots but not sure I’ll tune in for more.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 20:29
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Slightly ‘woke’ fly on the wall BBC3 style Loganair fly on the wall show on iPlayer ‘Sky High Club’ something different and some nice aerial shots but not sure I’ll tune in for more.
I thought the programme was dire, I expected to learn something about the airline & it's ops - I was sadly wrong.
I won't be tuning in again.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 16:36
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I thought the programme was dire, I expected to learn something about the airline & it's ops - I was sadly wrong.
I won't be tuning in again.
I turned off half way through. It painted them in a thoroughly unprofessional light. The captain pulling pranks and the cabin crew cavorting about at the seaside and bickering in their flat. What was that to do with running an airline?
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I turned off half way through. It painted them in a thoroughly unprofessional light. The captain pulling pranks and the cabin crew cavorting about at the seaside and bickering in their flat. What was that to do with running an airline?
Nothing, but the narrative suits BBC3 and their target audience.

Perhaps Jonathan Hinckles might be regretting opening his doors to the production company, though they do say that all publicity is good publicity!
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 16:57
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Nothing, but the narrative suits BBC3 and their target audience.

Perhaps Jonathan Hinckles might be regretting opening his doors to the production company, though they do say that all publicity is good publicity!
I didn't realise it was on BBC Three. I watched it on BBC Scotland. It explains a lot but still does them no favours.
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I didn't realise it was on BBC Three. I watched it on BBC Scotland. It explains a lot but still does them no favours.
If I recall correctly it was said that is is being aired on BBC Scotland but will be networked on BBC3. I could have misheard.
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 17:12
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Sky High Club is produced by Mentorn Scotland. The commission came from a creative partnership of BBC Three, BBC Scotland and Screen Scotland. The scheme invited local Scottish Independent production companies to pitch innovative, factual entertainment format ideas that reflect the life experiences young people, with the promise of a guaranteed series commission.
It's on BBC3 at 20.00 tomorrow - I think the programme title gives you a fair idea of the direction its going to take
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Old 17th Aug 2022, 17:50
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Nothing, but the narrative suits BBC3 and their target audience.

Perhaps Jonathan Hinckles might be regretting opening his doors to the production company, though they do say that all publicity is good publicity!
Yes, it's clearly aimed at a BBC3 (ie, young) audience and hence feels a bit like a reality show.

I thought the 2 female CC who share a flat came across fine, said they are professional and take their job seriously when at work - and that they get frustrated at pax who don't realise they are there mainly for their safety, which seems fine to me.

Also thought that the FO with HIV came across very well - seemed professional, devoted and passionate about what he does and furthering himself - fine by me also.

Yes, the young Capt has the "gift of the gab" (by his own admission) but seemed to respect his partner (who works on the ground for the airline at LSI) and obviously is no mug if he got a captaincy at 23.

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It’s dire, it really is. I’m not sure if I can say anything else about it than that.
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I was very disappointed in the first episode and turned off after 10-15mins as was not what I expected
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 07:20
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I've seen about half of one of the episodes - which was more than enough. Bless them, but it did put me in mind of this from the 90s:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...KSHVVlM2bA5rN0



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Old 9th Sep 2022, 17:13
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Loganair have announced a reduction in some fuel surcharges, and an increase in others.

Loganair revises fuel surcharge (travelmole.com)


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Vouchers and free changes due to the death
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I see The Times are reporting today that the Bond brothers are actively looking for a buyer for Loganair. Could we be about to see some consolidation in the UK regional market? (Link not added as behind paywall)
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I see The Times are reporting today that the Bond brothers are actively looking for a buyer for Loganair. Could we be about to see some consolidation in the UK regional market? (Link not added as behind paywall)
its an interesting article. Apparently Loganair is debt free and profitable. Expected to sell for low tens of millions but not more because of the precarious nature of regional aviation.

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Old 9th Oct 2022, 07:44
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Link to article avoiding the paywall here:

https://archive.ph/qD1Li

Very, very crudely dividing their revenue by pax numbers gives them an average revenue per pax of £115. Not a bad effort on predominantly UK regional routes.
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