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Old 4th Sep 2023, 12:21
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Originally Posted by MARK 101
BAE are at Warton, but think Rolls Royce at Derby are also involved,hence the Sau. di Hercules flights now operate to EMA not Manchester . Could be some traffic from there
Saudi-UK defence contracts extend way beyond Tornado/Eurofighter/Hawk and RR - Into land and sea equipment, intelligence and IT and even medical technology. Many of these industries are on or near the M40/M5 corridors.

MBDA “may” be shipping from Bristol and Welsh facilities some sophisticated kit have no doubt.
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Saudia sending another 787-10 tomorrow.
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Old 4th Sep 2023, 22:40
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Easyjet announce another BHX route - Salzburg starts weekly in Jan 24
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Old 5th Sep 2023, 04:58
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Originally Posted by Rutan16
Saudi-UK defence contracts extend way beyond Tornado/Eurofighter/Hawk and RR - Into land and sea equipment, intelligence and IT and even medical technology. Many of these industries are on or near the M40/M5 corridors.

MBDA “may” be shipping from Bristol and Welsh facilities some sophisticated kit have no doubt.
That is true, but it does not generate a huge amount of human traffic. I have known BAe for many years. Corporate travel is almost always with BA.
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to comment on alcohol on a flight into Saudi
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With Birmingham City Council being effectively Bankrupt, what affect does that have for the airport, ie freeze on all capital spend? I know they are part owners..
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Originally Posted by pabely
With Birmingham City Council being effectively Bankrupt, what affect does that have for the airport, ie freeze on all capital spend? I know they are part owners..
Interesting question, I would imagine that all ongoing contracts wouldn't be affected, but I am but a mere lay person.

I suppose that one possible outcome could be that parts of the 'family silver' could be flogged off, perhaps including their share of BHX?
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Old 5th Sep 2023, 15:29
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Originally Posted by pabely
With Birmingham City Council being effectively Bankrupt, what affect does that have for the airport, ie freeze on all capital spend? I know they are part owners..
My understanding is that the local authorities only own 49% of the airport, and that ownership is split between the 7 metropolitan boroughs of the West Midlands (Dudley, Walsall, Solihull etc) - not sure if they each own an equal stake but I therefore wouldn’t expect Birmingham City Council’s financial woes to have any impact!
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Old 5th Sep 2023, 15:54
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Salzburg

Originally Posted by BHX5DME
Easyjet announce another BHX route - Salzburg starts weekly in Jan 24
Intriguing flight times BHX-SZG EJU4489 13:30 and SZG-BHX EJU4490 18:25 commences 13 January (only 9 flights)

Still waiting to see which routes out of Amsterdam Paris and Lyon get re-timed and thus the unlucky one getting 18:55 departure from BHX which is a fine time to guarantee empty seats in winter.

CDG is favourite as it recommences on a Saturday on 13 January but not sure a 9pm local arrival in CDG is a great idea in winter. I reckon a 9:45 day if it was Lyon so again possible unless the weather decides not to co-operate

I assume G- & HB- aircraft can't operate EJU flights regularly ruling out EDI, GLA BFS & GVA?

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Old 6th Sep 2023, 22:30
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The latest ACL reports shows Air China applying for 3 weekly departures from BHX in W23/24.

One to keep an eye on !



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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
The latest ACL reports shows Air China applying for 3 weekly departures from BHX in W23/24.

One to keep an eye on !
👀. They’re certainly at an advantage over western airlines with being able to fly over Russia…….
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 15:38
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
The latest ACL reports shows Air China applying for 3 weekly departures from BHX in W23/24.

One to keep an eye on !
This would not surprise me. I have noticed a significant uptick in people from China and Hong Kong moving to the city.

Sutton Coldfield has seen many properties change hands to cash rich, no chain Chinese families.
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This would not surprise me. I have noticed a significant uptick in people from China and Hong Kong moving to the city.

Sutton Coldfield has seen many properties change hands to cash rich, no chain Chinese families.
Would it take connecting passengers from other carriers? Not sure it would be my first choice to fly with but nonstop would be a plus. Amazing to see an eg A350 Air China sitting at one of the gates if it ever came to pass. Not sure how the other regional China routes are doing but think MAN had an upgauge in frequency with Hainan
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Ryanair winter

Seems that they are doing their annual winter pruning.

Stockholm and Toulouse removed all but a few early November dates and then back mid March.

Stockholm is motoring and I wonder if it is to do with the base as all flights thus far have been BHX based but winter is Stockholm oops wrong tense, was all Stockholm based.Hopefully this one might get added back.

Cork reduced 4 to 3 per week, Shannon 3 to 2, Dublin 35 to 31, Faro 4 to 3, Stockholm 2 to nil, Toulouse 2 to nil and Grenoble 2 to 1 most weeks from when it starts. A lot of it bar the Stockholm is pretty realistic to be honest and not really much to question.

The good news is over the Christmas period all the reduced frequency flights are restored plus extra flights to Poznan, Bucharest, Sofia, Verona, Bergamo, Murcia, Oporto, Malta and Alicante. The 3 Thursday over Christmas and New Year shows 9 additional flights

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Old 13th Sep 2023, 17:17
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Is there updates on new routes or rumours of flight frequency changes coming to bhx ?

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Old 14th Sep 2023, 15:04
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If there are, they'll be posted here for all to see!
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 20:18
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BHX to BUD

Ryanair have announced a new route.

Ryanair - Budapest to Birmingham.
Flights start 29 October 2023
FR9934 BUD 1345-1525 BHX (Fri)
FR9934 BUD 1805-1945 BHX (Sun)
FR9933 BHX 1550-1930 BUD (Fri)
FR9933 BHX 2010-2350 BUD (Sun)
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Old 14th Sep 2023, 22:08
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Nice to see FR add another route at BHX although I'm pretty sure they operated BUD briefly a few years ago? Could be wrong....

Wonder if Wizz will respond in any way? FR timings are much better than Wizz for the weekend away brigade
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 06:36
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Nice to see FR add another route at BHX although I'm pretty sure they operated BUD briefly a few years ago? Could be wrong....

Wonder if Wizz will respond in any way? FR timings are much better than Wizz for the weekend away brigade
Yes it was a good few years ago and didn’t last long. Is this replacing Billund?
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Old 15th Sep 2023, 12:47
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Yes it was a good few years ago and didn’t last long. Is this replacing Billund?
Difficult to say as Billund was never released for winter 23/24 and Budapest are away based flights which coincidently was going to be the case for Stockholm this winter which suddenly went off sale with Toulouse.

To be fare Toulouse is likely to be yield based and probably was not getting filled other than at low fares. Stockholm is more a mystery as it has been doing well operating from the BHX base and then suddenly it is listed to change to Stockholm based at awful times for winter and it has gone.

No yield data of course but Stockholm last winter was okay load factor wise

77% November
87% December
77% January
84% February
80% March

Summer

92% April
87% May
95% June


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