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Old 28th Dec 2021, 19:32
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Not like Malaga at all
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 09:07
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As far as I am aware they have never flown to Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt
Used to fly to Sharm, Taba and Hurghada regularly.

Started Tunisia and Morocco just before the Arab Spring uprising and stopped immediately.
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Old 29th Dec 2021, 11:34
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD View Post
With a fleet of close to 90 aircraft and a substantial order book, I'd say nothing small about Jet2!!
I didn't say they were small, just UK centric, TUI can funnel customers from Germany, Belgium, Netherlands (usually) as well as UK and in fact within UK are using Easyjet alot (certainly to Egypt).
Economies of scale, as I type there are 3 Max's on the way down to SSH and I suspect a few TUI customers on the EZY flights from BRS & LGW today so demand is around.
Jet2 seem to be sticking to traditional bucket & spade routes which is fine if that is where the money is for them.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 08:55
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Originally Posted by Superpilot View Post
Can one of you friendly people check to see if Jet2 have plans to use SmartLynx out of STN next year? Thank you!

no plans for smartlynx - possibly Titan but not smartlynx out of STN.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 09:07
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 11:59
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I think it is time for Jet2 to start thinking ahead on fleet and destinations and not trusting in the EU summer and winter destinations, times are changing and I think the destination choices should too.

I think it time for Jet2 to think about Orlando, Las Vegas, Niagra Fall, Toronto To name a few.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:19
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USA and Canada is a difficult market at present as can be seen from Virgin and US Airlines

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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:33
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
I think it is time for Jet2 to start thinking ahead on fleet and destinations and not trusting in the EU summer and winter destinations, times are changing and I think the destination choices should too.

I think it time for Jet2 to think about Orlando, Las Vegas, Niagra Fall, Toronto To name a few.
Not sure what EU has got to do with it. The UK status with the EU is the same its relationship with any other country nowadays.

If however Jet2 wish compete at the cheap end of the package holiday market 'reinventing' Romania and put more resources into Bulgaria, Turkey etc.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:41
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You are reading to much into it, the EU, I was using it as a geographical area not politically I should have said Europe.

what I’m saying is times are changing and lots of individual restrictions and alert levels all over your flying program is causing havoc, people are looking further a field for their holiday and with Ryanair flying people all over Europe for peanuts something will have to give or change.
yes virgin offer flights but I’m talking about a big move by a charter holiday airlines inti this market.

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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:44
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It would be a big move - like buying more aircraft
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 12:58
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daz211

I did get the wrong end of the stick.

Florida, particularly the Orlando region is a strange one. Having 'done' them twice I don't see the attraction, and certainly not in stifling summer humidity!

Between them TUI and Virgin Holidays really have that market sewn up from London, Manchester and Scotland. Perhaps Jet2 could build a market from the likes of NCL, LBA, EMA and BRS but would that give them a big enough presence to do decent deals with hotel and car rental companies?
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 14:48
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Don`t forget Aer Lingus UK is In Florida market as well so if another it would be a blood bath
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 16:00
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Package holiday destinations lost when TCX went bust would be the first port of call if they were to do it, however why break something that's not fixed?

I would love to see Cuba (Holguin, Cayo Coco), Mexico (Cancun), Jamaica (Montego Bay), Dominican Republic (Punta Cana), Goa and Gambia during the winter - can't see it happening anytime soon though! . Plus they would then need a serious amount of change within the airline in terms of long haul frames, pilots, cabin & ground crews and tour operations would need to do a hell of a lot of contracting before they even start... we can dream!

Happy new year all!
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 16:00
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
I think it is time for Jet2 to start thinking ahead on fleet and destinations and not trusting in the EU summer and winter destinations, times are changing and I think the destination choices should too.

I think it time for Jet2 to think about Orlando, Las Vegas, Niagra Fall, Toronto To name a few.
Wouldn't they need 321NEO LRs or 330s for that? Is their Airbus Order flexible in that way? I think the market is still too risky for such a venture.

Just seen an advert on UK TV by AirTransit for Canadian Holidays so they see a market but.....an existing LH operation using existing equipment to service a leisure demand is very different from something from scratch.

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Old 30th Dec 2021, 16:06
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TUI already have the market to ORLANDO and CANCUN sewn up from NCL.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 16:39
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I think in the current climate they'd be much better advised to stick to what they know works for them.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 16:47
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There were already operators on lots of the routes Jet2 serve but they have still managed to expand. Allegedly because they have great customer service with reps etc.

Their CEO did also mention recently that he was interested in the prospect of long haul expansion.

If Jet2 can go in with a better offer then they can easily force weaker operators out.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 17:06
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Originally Posted by Jamesair1 View Post
TUI already have the market to ORLANDO and CANCUN sewn up from NCL.
I would have thought that Orlando (although calling Melbourne Orlando is almost 'Ryan-esque') is hardly sewn up at 1 x weekly and 1 x fortnightly given the catchment of NCL.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 17:12
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I’m not suggesting stopping what they are good at and yes that would be madness but the following and loyalty Jet2 has would easily carry them smoothly into the long haul holiday market and run along side the European network.

Key would be to offer the routes from Most of their bases and not stick to Manchester.
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Old 30th Dec 2021, 17:49
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Originally Posted by daz211 View Post
You are reading to much into it, the EU, I was using it as a geographical area not politically I should have said Europe.

what Iím saying is times are changing and lots of individual restrictions and alert levels all over your flying program is causing havoc, people are looking further a field for their holiday and with Ryanair flying people all over Europe for peanuts something will have to give or change.
yes virgin offer flights but Iím talking about a big move by a charter holiday airlines inti this market.
They have a very different business model compared to the Ryanair race to the bottom approach. I'm pretty sure that they will come out of the pandemic in a stronger position compared to others due to the way that they have treated their customers and partners.

They have said never say never when it comes to long haul but I doubt that now is the right time.
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