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Perhaps someone could clear up the confusion for me, seems the implication is the article is somehow fraudulent on the part of Eastern, yet it's every bit as much the Mayors article so is someone impersonating him to?!
Unfortunately a banger has been lit and dropped in a barrel of bullschit. Think its time to stand back as one doesn't want to get splattered as there's probably more to come up.
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December CAA stats:
Terminal passengers: 936 - down 91% v prior year.
Terminal passengers: 936 - down 91% v prior year.
- Aberdeen: 563
- Belfast City: 110
- London Heathrow: 192
- Cardiff: 71
- Aberdeen: 12.8 pax per flight in December (11.8 in Nov, 10.4 in Oct, 11.8 in Sep, 8.8 in Aug & 6.3 in Jul)
- Belfast City: 9.2 in Dec (13.5 in Nov, 5.0 in Oct, 9.0 in Sep, 9.7 in Aug & 10.4 in Jul)
- London Heathrow: 10.7 in Dec (5.7 in Nov, 6.3 in Oct, 12.5 in Sep - LCY was 4.1 in August & 5.8 in Jul)
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The Chancellor who lives in N. York’s seems very keen on a de- centralised Government with the various departments moving up to the Northeast which can only be a good thing for fast travel between London and the Boro. Until the people in London realise what a beautiful area North Yorkshire is then I suppose the ‘London Staff’ will want to commute until they move their families depending on their children’s schooling requirements. Heads of Department will of course fly from Teesside, the also ran will have to take the train.
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Using the train just to go to London only would probably be the best, however connecting to an international flight at LHR would be easier and quicker using Loganair.
Heads of Department will of course fly from Teesside, the also ran will have to take the train.
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Not sure of the policy but I am sure that practicalities and timescales come into it. Not to mention that there will be plenty of consultants, advisors and other corporate travellers who will not fall under the civil service policy if part of the treasury were to relocate to Teesside.
If you were travelling by train to Westminster from an office near Teesside airport I guess your timings would be something like: leave the office 30 minutes before the train leaves Darlington, hopefully 2 hours 30 mins on the train then 30 minutes tube/taxi to your destination (so 3 hours 30 mins total).
If you take the plane then you would leave the office an hour before departure, 1 hour flight then 1 hour Heathrow Express/Tube or Taxi (so 3 hours total). In that example the train wins despite (taking 30 minutes longer) on environmental grounds, ability to work whilst travelling and flexibility due to sheer number of trains between Darlington, Eaglescliffe (and soon Middlesbrough).
But if you are going to Slough, the dynamic totally changes. The train will be something like 4 hours door to door and the flight 2 hours 30.
Of course price can also come into it. An early train to London is generally not so cheap if you are booking under a week in advance.
If you were travelling by train to Westminster from an office near Teesside airport I guess your timings would be something like: leave the office 30 minutes before the train leaves Darlington, hopefully 2 hours 30 mins on the train then 30 minutes tube/taxi to your destination (so 3 hours 30 mins total).
If you take the plane then you would leave the office an hour before departure, 1 hour flight then 1 hour Heathrow Express/Tube or Taxi (so 3 hours total). In that example the train wins despite (taking 30 minutes longer) on environmental grounds, ability to work whilst travelling and flexibility due to sheer number of trains between Darlington, Eaglescliffe (and soon Middlesbrough).
But if you are going to Slough, the dynamic totally changes. The train will be something like 4 hours door to door and the flight 2 hours 30.
Of course price can also come into it. An early train to London is generally not so cheap if you are booking under a week in advance.
Now I’m sure we have had these discussions in past times!
At the end of the day...it’s Covid time so nobody really knows anything?
Airports and airlines will fail,trains will will run on slippy leaves and Boro won’t be promoted!!
Stay safe...
At the end of the day...it’s Covid time so nobody really knows anything?
Airports and airlines will fail,trains will will run on slippy leaves and Boro won’t be promoted!!
Stay safe...
The focus of HM Treasury is the UK.
Branch offices of UK plc outside the UK are handled by the Foreign Office or MOD
I imagine there would be a lot of traffic between Westminster and a Treasury office in Teesside. Maybe there would be traffic from Teesside to other HM Treasury locations in Norwich and Edinburgh
I am not clear why there would need to be heavy traffic between a Teesside office and Slough or Heathrow.
Branch offices of UK plc outside the UK are handled by the Foreign Office or MOD
I imagine there would be a lot of traffic between Westminster and a Treasury office in Teesside. Maybe there would be traffic from Teesside to other HM Treasury locations in Norwich and Edinburgh
I am not clear why there would need to be heavy traffic between a Teesside office and Slough or Heathrow.
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My 195 comment is really an interim measure until such times as the London Staff decide either to move up here or leave/take early retirement then the cheaper (no London Weighting) locally employed Staff will be moved in as I am sure they will be able to shuffle paper around just as efficiently as the former London Staff did.
Unless the London Staff are dyed in the wool Cockneys then the advantages of moving Up North are obvious, a superb area to live in if you love country matters or the seaside, sell their pokey two bedroomed ex Council London flat and by a Detached house in Ingleby Toytown, decent Yorkshire puddings instead of jellied eels, my only worry is that I would not like to hear the Cockney infiltrate our Yorkshire dialect tha nas.
A bit below the belt in regards to Boro’s promotion prospects mind you I haven’t seen the Boro play since Delaphena and Ugalini (spelling?) played for them.
Covid has indeed put the mockers on most future plans but we do have hope for the future with both the Chancellor and the Mayors backing.
Unless the London Staff are dyed in the wool Cockneys then the advantages of moving Up North are obvious, a superb area to live in if you love country matters or the seaside, sell their pokey two bedroomed ex Council London flat and by a Detached house in Ingleby Toytown, decent Yorkshire puddings instead of jellied eels, my only worry is that I would not like to hear the Cockney infiltrate our Yorkshire dialect tha nas.
A bit below the belt in regards to Boro’s promotion prospects mind you I haven’t seen the Boro play since Delaphena and Ugalini (spelling?) played for them.
Covid has indeed put the mockers on most future plans but we do have hope for the future with both the Chancellor and the Mayors backing.
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I agree but at the same time if I were a treasury employee who lived in Slough, I would be pushing heavily to use the plane for my hypothetic trip to Teesside. In my experience these polices have some degree of interpretation based on individual circumstances, the time the employee leaves/gets home, avoiding overnight stays, travelling with more senior colleagues...
I agree but at the same time if I were a treasury employee who lived in Slough, I would be pushing heavily to use the plane for my hypothetic trip to Teesside. In my experience these polices have some degree of interpretation based on individual circumstances, the time the employee leaves/gets home, avoiding overnight stays, travelling with more senior colleagues...
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In the middle of all of this wonderful chat about hypothetical scenarios - I seriously hope we do get the Treasury outpost of course! - it should be noted that Loganair’s second tenure starts tomorrow with the first flight to Aberdeen at 1500. The aircraft is due in about an hour beforehand, first of two of course!
