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Old 8th Sep 2020, 17:07
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UPDATE Coronavirus – 8th September

Depends a bit on which island you go to. Gran Canaria have the highest numbers but I guess you'd have to weigh that against population numbers there.

I can't find the link but there is a site where you can click on Tenerife, for example, and see the breakdown of cases by area. Majority of the cases are in the north of that island.
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Just an update on the Canaries where Gran Canaria & Lanzarote are both about 190 per 100K. Tenerife on the other hand us about 45. These are 14 day average cases. Population of Gran Canaria & Tenerife are about 900k, whereas Lanzarote is 150K.

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Quietly Quietly...

Aviation Minister Miss Kelly Tolhurst (who?) has been moved aside.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 08:08
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
The son of a friend (in his mid 30s) went on holiday to Malta with his partner. They returned to 14 days quarantine and that lasted three days before they went off on another holiday to Cornwall. No doubt if he had received a call on his mobile checking he was maintaining quarantine he would have lied and I doubt the location of a mobile can be traced without a warrant.

So is this a rant against the irresponsibility of his generation? No, although the fact that many are irresponsible in this context is well established, it's to illustrate that 14 days quarantine simply doesn't achieve its aim and should be replaced by a test upon arrival back in UK and another test, say, five days later. If both are negative normal life could be resumed. There would certainly be much more likelihood of adherence to 5 days quarantine than 14 days.
Germany was reported to have ended their airport testing at the end of August.

https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...139903.article

While we all want to save the industry we have to remember that air travel spread this virus around the world at lightning speed. Even now people are going away on holiday, they then forget social distancing and bring the virus home which is what was happening in Germany. It is debatable if someone picked up the virus at the airport or on the aircraft or even on the last days of the trip that even a second test would always pick up the infection which is the whole point of 14 day quarantines.

https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/working-for-u...-statement.pdf

The test is a swab of your nose and throat undertaken at one of the Trust testing sites. The test is not 100% accurate;at present it is thought to detect approximately 70% of coronavirusiinfections.A negative test does not mean that you stop self-isolating if you have coronavirus symptoms.

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Old 9th Sep 2020, 09:00
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Meantime...

RYR cuts ANOTHER 10m pax from its financial year forecast & says Winter 2020 essentially a "write off" & is also looking at perhaps further base closures.
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That seems for the 1st time to be a very well kept secret of Government. Wow bet even the Russki's didn't know.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 12:50
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SNN and Cork are likely to be cut in Ireland and lots more will follow.

Everybody is treating Pandemic as 1 single event where as scientists are saving it is 2, not waves but outbreak and testing to May and then since but Govts still working on old data.
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 13:02
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Weekly UK quarantine announcement is tomorrow. Any bets on what Grant Shapps will say ?
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Old 9th Sep 2020, 13:27
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
Meantime...

RYR cuts ANOTHER 10m pax from its financial year forecast & says Winter 2020 essentially a "write off" & is also looking at perhaps further base closures.
Hope this doesn’t happen but SEN must be nervously looking over their shoulder!
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While Ryanair are moaning about the U.K. government they are also moaning about the Irish government as their restrictions are much greater than England’s. Meanwhile passengers are still moaning about Ryanair hanging on to their money.

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Old 9th Sep 2020, 15:53
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
Quietly Quietly...

Aviation Minister Miss Kelly Tolhurst (who?) has been moved aside.
She’s moved to a ministerial post in the Dept for Communities, Housing and Local Government, following the resignation of the Minister, Simon Jones. There was a mini reshuffle as a consequence.
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Add Portugal, but exclude Madeira and The Azores. He could take Sweden off the naughty step giving the recent very low figures, but I doubt he will.
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He could divulge some state secrets............... i,e, that he doesn't know what he is doing but likely will be SSDD.
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Originally Posted by RealFish
She’s moved to a ministerial post in the Dept for Communities, Housing and Local Government, following the resignation of the Minister, Simon Jones. There was a mini reshuffle as a consequence.
If there is a mini shuffle and nobody notices, it is really a mini shuffle ?
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Not a brain cell to be seen amongst Boris's posh blue maidens. At least the lefty whingers would've been kept on their toes by the media. Posh and blue receives zero scrutiny. And this is the result.
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No different from the rest of the muppets then. A quiet reshuffle when everybody looking elsewhere.
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From the BBC - this is a very telling snippet...

..........said a mass-testing programme could be ready by the spring and could help the UK to avoid a second national lockdown.

So who knows how many airlines in Europe could last till 2022 or later for a recovery of over 65% load factor? It appears the rolling day average of load factors for many flights operating is unsustainable...

If the traveller is not interested in flying and the airlines are all trying to run routes with 189 seats but only 30-70 pax per flight..... There is a bigger pile of poo round the corner....
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Oh dear, we are back to the pointless political posts again, what a bore. So you don't like Boris? Who cares!
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Pointless political posts are only pointless when they don't coincide with your own view (using the word "your" in a broad sense rather than aiming anywhere in particular). All governments of all hues have been guilty of a revolving door on aviation secretaries.
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Mainland Portugal on England’s quarantine list from Saturday.
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