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Old 6th Mar 2020, 11:50
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Originally Posted by pabely View Post
The Seacat žs in sheduled Dry Dock for annual checks I believe.
If that's the case then fair enough. It would be interesting to know if it would have been pressed into service had it not been in dry dock.

Typically both Manannan and Ben-my-Chree run alongside each other for a few weeks until after Easter, then the Ben goes off for its annual overhaul mid/late-April so both vessels are in service during the TT late-May/early-June and for the rest of the summer until late-October.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 11:57
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At this point in time, the IOMG doesn't have much time, and doesn't seem to have too many options. So perhaps we need a short term fix, while a longer term solution is worked up.

I know that not everyone is a fan of EZY, but surely the short term answer, is for IOMG is to try to persuade easyJet to inject extra seats into the LPL market for the coming 3/4 weeks, while a more sustainable, longer term, solution is found. With the wider impact on their bookings, and taking into account their scale, surely EZY could inject 300-500 seats a day into that route, fairly easily?

No issues setting up a website, crew base, etc. They could be ready to go by Monday.

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Old 6th Mar 2020, 12:01
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Originally Posted by Tonyq View Post
I know that not everyone is a fan of EZY, but surely the short term answer, is for IOMG is to try to persuade easyJet to inject extra seats into the LPL market for the coming 3/4 weeks, while a more sustainable, longer term, solution is found. With the wider impact on their bookings, and taking into account their scale, surely EZY could inject 300-500 seats a day into that route.
Why inject more seats when you can simply manage the yield to your advantage. I'm pretty sure that the ticket prices for IOM are increasing by the minute.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 12:06
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Originally Posted by The96er View Post
Why inject more seats when you can simply manage the yield to your advantage. I'm pretty sure that the ticket prices for IOM are increasing by the minute.
Because they could do both. There is significant unmet demand, right now. Many of their flights are sold out for weeks ahead. There are days between now and the end of the month, with no EZY flights, so there is a void to be filled. They might even see a chance to generate a bit of goodwill in the IOM.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 12:34
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Originally Posted by 22/04 View Post
I can't help thinking that we should have an airline in which the UK government or the UK and Islands governing bodies has a stake operating the Islands routes. Or at least owning/leasing the aircraft like the Twotters in Scotland.
I tend to agree and other regional routes which infrastructure wise are important to keep the UK connected but may not be huge money spinners.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 12:52
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Easy Jet are unlikely to put additional seats in its just not suited to their business model. They are only interested in dropping in schedules that allow them to fit into their other more strategically relevant routes.
If the IOMG had thought this through they would have had a contingency plan to put into place at short notice. Its one matter losing flights from Manchester to Southampton for example but there are virtually no other alternatives in the case of the Isle of Man because of the Irish sea!

One of the easiest things right now would be to persuade Loganair to do some emergency flights they have a booking system and a spare plane sat on the tarmac at Ronaldsway ( London City is currently varied between the Saab and the ATR) surely pulling together something there would be easy. A little outside of the box thinking and there could be an immediate improvement!
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 13:40
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Would operating in and out of the IOM be potentially available to a non UK airline to do IOM-LPL etc ?
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 13:59
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10 View Post
Would operating in and out of the IOM be potentially available to a non UK airline to do IOM-LPL etc ?
Would you fly into an airport without an ANSP and only half an air traffic unit? I'd be checking with my insurers. I'm booked on the Ben in a few weeks so flying is not an issue.

Loganair is focusing on sorting the issues in Scotland.

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Old 6th Mar 2020, 14:14
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Originally Posted by Islandlad View Post
Would you fly into an airport without an ANSP and only half an air traffic unit? I'd be checking with my insurers. I'm booked on the Ben in a few weeks so flying is not an issue.

Loganair is focusing on sorting the issues in Scotland.
Sorry I don't know what you mean, what I wanted to know was would a foreign airline for example binter canarias , be allowed to set up a base at IOM and fly to UK airports if they wanted to ?
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 14:16
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Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10 View Post
Sorry I don't know what you mean, what I wanted to know was would a foreign airline for example binter canarias , be allowed to set up a base at IOM and fly to UK airports if they wanted to ?
In short: yes.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 14:18
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Sorry I don't know what you mean, what I wanted to know was would a foreign airline for example binter canarias , be allowed to set up a base at IOM and fly to UK airports if they wanted to ?
May be now - maybe not after December 31st
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 14:19
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Donít know why they would want too either, no one would really know the airline.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 14:27
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Originally Posted by flyerguy View Post
Donít know why they would want too either, no one would really know the airline.
It was just an example, could be anyone. Being there are so few UK based options available, maybe the IOM govt will have to look further afield.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 14:28
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
In short: yes.
Thank you.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 15:05
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Fascinating piece reported in the examiner- 'Airline EasyJet confirmed that it consolidated some of its flights to and from the island due a downturn in demand for services. Is this true as reported or an error? Ridiculous if its the case!
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 15:15
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Originally Posted by IOMX View Post
Fascinating piece reported in the examiner- 'Airline EasyJet confirmed that it consolidated some of its flights to and from the island due a downturn in demand for services. Is this true as reported or an error? Ridiculous if its the case!
easy have/did reduce number of Liverpool flights just recently, pre-Flybe news. They haven't added them back as yet.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 15:23
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Well that's really interesting and surely shows what they think of the island. They reduce the number and don't put any flights back in when the island is in trouble and instead charge between £151 and £292 for a single sector. Great airline!
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 16:53
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Originally Posted by IOMX View Post
Well that's really interesting and surely shows what they think of the island. They reduce the number and don't put any flights back in when the island is in trouble and instead charge between £151 and £292 for a single sector. Great airline!
Yes, on Monday, they removed a number of flights to/from LPL and BRS. I'm not aware of LGW was impacted. That's largely why I suggested earlier that they ought to be in a position to put some capacity back, to get IOM through the next couple of weeks.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 17:13
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I think I'm correct in saying that easyJet stated last year that they were going to reduce aircraft utilisation slightly in 2020 for operational reasons. Short routes such as LPL IOM would be obvious casualties of such a policy, although the timing of the reductions is unfortunate.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 17:13
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I agree and was completely unaware that they had already reduced capacity to the island. Its telling that they are not putting that capacity back in as quickly as they took it out and it really shows their 'commitment' to the Isle of Man in my view. I do hope that people reflect that when there were challenging times for the Isle of Man Easyjet were charging up to £292 per one way sector for a 30 minute flight to Liverpool and around £500 for a return flight. I fully accept its the way their ticketing works based around supply and demand but in these circumstances I think its blatant profiteering and is wrong! I hope that when it all blows cover people remember what happened although I suspect many have short memories. In short disgraceful!
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