Virgin Atlantic
Paxing All Over The World
There may be other competition Jet II but there are more likely to involve two sectors via a hub. Direct flights from the UK will be limited.
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As far as I'm concerned, as long as VS is saved, it can only be a good thing. I will never understand people's joy at airlines going under. VS has some of the best T&Cs for it's employees and are IMO one of the few UK airlines that dont feel like they just want you to sit down, shut up and not bother the CC. It would be a great shame to lose them.
The same people taking joy in their demise will be the same people whining when their only choice is limited and massively overpriced.
Good luck to everyone at VS. I really hope to see you come out the other side and fly with you again.
The same people taking joy in their demise will be the same people whining when their only choice is limited and massively overpriced.
Good luck to everyone at VS. I really hope to see you come out the other side and fly with you again.
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There are many in another place “blue and .net” certainly wishing the worst on Virgin for sure .
Many/most either Americans where businesses have an opportunity to survive through Chapter 11 (true existing shareholders take the haircut but the business survives) and a Chinese gentleman pontificating and I have to laugh - The Chinese aviation industry is the largest ponzi scheme on the planet - the debt burden larger than many small countries entire GDP !
Many/most either Americans where businesses have an opportunity to survive through Chapter 11 (true existing shareholders take the haircut but the business survives) and a Chinese gentleman pontificating and I have to laugh - The Chinese aviation industry is the largest ponzi scheme on the planet - the debt burden larger than many small countries entire GDP !
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I have to be honest, the exclusion of Vegas from Manchester astounds me. That was consistently a very busy flight for VS. I don't need the 'yields' lecture - I know that - but to leave Vegas open at Manchester really does surprise me.
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That's assuming of course ........
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MCO on the other hand was up to 12 or 13 flights weekly in peak season. Let's see what they plan for S21 if they survive. Family holidays there can work out very expensive and it remains to be seen to what extent discretionary spending will suffer next year.
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Besides loadings and profitability, I can only assume VS and Virgin Holidays have data that indicates that the vast majority of passengers on its LAS flights are only going to Vegas. I've never been to Nevada but it would seem there aren't many other destinations within a reasonable distance of LAS that people could travel to, though it's possible to drive to the LA area within 4-5 hours.
Another big difference between MCO and LAS is that MCO saw up to double daily flights in the peaks, whereas LAS was always a few times a week and a seasonal operation for the last few years. When you factor in the expected short-term slump in demand, it's probably one of those routes that don't look viable despite the fact VS are/were the sole carrier on the MAN-LAS route after the demise of Thomas Cook.
I suppose if people do want to go to LAS there are one-stop options in the interim or to fly with VS to LAX and spend 4-5 hours driving there.
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Besides loadings and profitability, I can only assume VS and Virgin Holidays have data that indicates that the vast majority of passengers on its LAS flights are only going to Vegas.
At least if we did this in future it would all be out of 1 UK Airport!
Granted that no one really knows how long it'll be until previous levels of travel return, but VS used to fill sometimes 5 744's a day (LGW x2 daily at least, MAN up to 2, GLA/BFS) from the UK to MCO and I can't see that capacity ever coming back again - which means if demand does return (or even half of it) prices will be high! (but I guess that's what they want)
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I still don’t understand why they couldn’t make a profit in the good times - can anyone explain ? and how this can be viable going forward. I too think they are good for competition and service initiatives but why couldn’t they make money ? A serious question not a dig.....
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So actually VS are more viable and commercially effective without the self imposed restraint of the group licensing agreement. So not beyond saving for all those wanting so many good people out of work!
So actually VS are more viable and commercially effective without the self imposed restraint of the group licensing agreement. So not beyond saving for all those wanting so many good people out of work!
