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Sorry, I cannot find via a search a VS thread already on here. Maybe I have missed this information elsewhere?
Can anyone shed any more light on the 4 leased in A330-200s Virgin are taking on board to be based at MAN March to May 2018 ? Thus releasing their own A330-300s to cover the broken 787s at LHR.
Are they Air Berlin machines & who is going to crew them ?
Also, what is the story with the 787s ? How many are grounded and is it really going to take months to fix them?
Can anyone shed any more light on the 4 leased in A330-200s Virgin are taking on board to be based at MAN March to May 2018 ? Thus releasing their own A330-300s to cover the broken 787s at LHR.
Are they Air Berlin machines & who is going to crew them ?
Also, what is the story with the 787s ? How many are grounded and is it really going to take months to fix them?
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Will these get the VS treatment, and have the same cabins installed, as the rest of the fleet installed?
If the aircraft are being kept for four years, I would hope so!
If not, this is a bit of a two fingers up to Manchester passengers (if this where they are bound), if they can't offer the same hard product as the rest of their fleet, which many passengers will be expecting.
What was Air Berlin's old hard product like on these aircraft, before they vanished? I have only used them within Europe and their product was pretty basic and similar to most LCC in Europe... So Im imagining their long haul product was similar too and will lack lay flat beds in business.
Also the A330-300's replacing the 787's while they are taken off line, will struggle to fly all 787 routes... For example, I doubt A330-300's will have the range to fly the routes like Hong Kong and LAX, maybe the ex-AB A330-200's would be better as the replacement aircraft, having the longer range and should be able to fly even the longer sectors...
If the aircraft are being kept for four years, I would hope so!
If not, this is a bit of a two fingers up to Manchester passengers (if this where they are bound), if they can't offer the same hard product as the rest of their fleet, which many passengers will be expecting.
What was Air Berlin's old hard product like on these aircraft, before they vanished? I have only used them within Europe and their product was pretty basic and similar to most LCC in Europe... So Im imagining their long haul product was similar too and will lack lay flat beds in business.
Also the A330-300's replacing the 787's while they are taken off line, will struggle to fly all 787 routes... For example, I doubt A330-300's will have the range to fly the routes like Hong Kong and LAX, maybe the ex-AB A330-200's would be better as the replacement aircraft, having the longer range and should be able to fly even the longer sectors...
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I’m not sure if the VS A333s are the bees knees 251T MTOW variants, but they are at least the 247T variants, which can comfortably do UK-US west coast. VS have already recently taken at least 1 A346 out of storage for the ULR routes.
Even the earliest A332 could do Europe-West Coast USA
Even the earliest A332 could do Europe-West Coast USA
I’m not sure if the VS A333s are the bees knees 251T MTOW variants
VS have already recently taken at least 1 A346 out of storage for the ULR routes.
I see there is now also a thread running (R&N) concerning some turnbacks and groundings for Air NZ on RR-powered 789's.
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I suppose if VS are looking for a MAN specific sub fleet, presumably as a stop gap until the B789 issues are resolved and A35K is online, the age of the aircraft is less of an issue?
I assume the A332 will be at MAN for 4-5 years; with the A333's returning firstly to replace the B744 (I assume VS will not actually use these to replace the beach fleet) and then the A332s...
I assume the A332 will be at MAN for 4-5 years; with the A333's returning firstly to replace the B744 (I assume VS will not actually use these to replace the beach fleet) and then the A332s...
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The 787 issue seems quite serious, to this SLF.
They are talking about adding Premium Economy seats at some point in 2018, which, for a leased fleet, for a short term-ish issue, seems quite permanent!
They are talking about adding Premium Economy seats at some point in 2018, which, for a leased fleet, for a short term-ish issue, seems quite permanent!
Confirmed by Reuters a couple of days ago:
Virgin Atlantic plans to lease up to four A330-200s for at least 12 months from March 2018
though note the "up to four".
Virgin Atlantic plans to lease up to four A330-200s for at least 12 months from March 2018
though note the "up to four".
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I suppose if VS are looking for a MAN specific sub fleet, presumably as a stop gap until the B789 issues are resolved and A35K is online, the age of the aircraft is less of an issue?
I assume the A332 will be at MAN for 4-5 years; with the A333's returning firstly to replace the B744 (I assume VS will not actually use these to replace the beach fleet) and then the A332s...
I assume the A332 will be at MAN for 4-5 years; with the A333's returning firstly to replace the B744 (I assume VS will not actually use these to replace the beach fleet) and then the A332s...
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VS LHR-BGI
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P&O Cruises has a large amount of seats blocked with VS on LHR to BGI giving their passengers a scheduled option out of LHR for the first time in addition to their fly cruise options from LGW and other regional airports using TUI.
I believe this is one of the reasons why VS LHR to BGI is now available in addition to the LGW flights.
VS have some spare slots at LHR and BGI is an excellent addition and with the commitment from P&O Cruises new route will be successful.
I believe this is one of the reasons why VS LHR to BGI is now available in addition to the LGW flights.
VS have some spare slots at LHR and BGI is an excellent addition and with the commitment from P&O Cruises new route will be successful.
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Slot sitter? surely not! Seriously there are no West Indies routes ex-LHR except NAS and GCM. For those of us west of London this is a brilliant addition.
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I don't think either myself or anyone else has mentioned that it is a slot sitter!
It's only twice a week during the winter season so plenty of odd slots available with VS at LHR so the new BGI route is not necessarily a slot sitter especially with the P&O Cruises commitment behind it which I believe is working well plus it taps into wealthy west London and M4 corridor catchment.
It's only twice a week during the winter season so plenty of odd slots available with VS at LHR so the new BGI route is not necessarily a slot sitter especially with the P&O Cruises commitment behind it which I believe is working well plus it taps into wealthy west London and M4 corridor catchment.
