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Old 16th Jan 2020, 16:58
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And, being a prop, the front tends to be noisier.
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 17:04
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SAS have their Biz or SAS Plus at the rear with moveable dividers
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Old 16th Jan 2020, 21:41
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Originally Posted by manx crab View Post
They will have plenty of time to serve the catering anyway with the ATR being so slow. FWIW the BA timetable shows the IOM to LCY flights as being ATR from April.
I am curious where the Club seats will be (not that I would ever be in them)? , convention seems to be at the front by the door but ATR loads from the rear
Club seats are rows 12 and 14, 6 seats in total
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 08:06
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Originally Posted by 01475 View Post
Working out where this airline actually flies is still a bit of dark art! I want to fly direct Norway - Scotland. Where can I fly from and to? Route map says Bergen - Glasgow, no idea if it's direct. Booking engine will let me chose a load of random stuff that clearly won't be direct, but can't be restricted to show choices for things that are direct. Is Bergen - Glasgow direct? Booking engine lets me search but then says it's not possible to actually do it...

Given the number of changes in their network in recent times (and given that for the prices they charge they're presumably aiming for people that want direct flights to odd places and are willing to pay a premium for the time saving; if I have to change I can do that with a cheaper airline), it would seem sensible to make it easy to find out where they fly. Reminds me a bit of what BMI became like...
I think it is very easy to understand: they are just taking the tiny crumbs left on the market and trying to survive on those. A bit of cargo, a bit of acmi, a bit of regular (for what it is worth) flights, trying this, trying that, than changing it all again. As long they are not competing with the big guys, which will be really hard as well.

But yes, as a customer, this is not always too helpful and one can ask where the reliability is.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 10:06
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Loganair bought their original SD330s, SD360s, DHC6s, and some Islanders and Trislanders factory fresh, as well as the original ATP fleet and two 146-200s. They were also the launch customer for the Jetstream 41 alongside stablemate Manx.

Anyone know if the LCY-IOM ATR will be getting BA colours?
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 10:17
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dboy, that's the second or third scathing comment and comes on the back of a posting history with several shots at bmi too, back in the day. Time to move on, maybe?

44 aircraft is not taking the tiny crumbs. Five freighters with a sixth on the way and a scheduled network which I think is said to be the UK's fifth largest by volume of flights is of rather greater substance than the dismissive tones in which you describe it!

SKP1F, the ATR is in full Loganair colours. Arrived in Aberdeen earlier this week and looks very good.
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Old 17th Jan 2020, 10:35
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@Saab: nono, no shooting or offending at all. Plz dont misunderstand me. I just see it as a very hard market to survive and companies doing everything to keep their heads above the water.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 11:23
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...ybmi-collapse/

Wonder how this will play out?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 12:07
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Wonder has anyone run ATR performance numbers ex LCY. Suspect they will have significant RTOW!
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 12:57
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Originally Posted by runawayedge View Post
Wonder has anyone run ATR performance numbers ex LCY. Suspect they will have significant RTOW!
Not sure I understand? Lufthansa Regional used to happily run the ATR42-500 all the way to Germany, is Loganair limited?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 15:44
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Not sure I understand? Lufthansa Regional used to happily run the ATR42-500 all the way to Germany, is Loganair limited?
I thought BI also used the ATR into City
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 16:16
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Originally Posted by goldeneye View Post
I thought BI also used the ATR into City
Yes. Aer Arran also operated ATR42 and 72 to IOM for a while and before than BMI operated a Leeds route with one so as far as I know there is no issue with the ATR operating from LCY.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 16:17
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Air Wales also operated the ATR42-300 so both Swansea and Cardiff from LCY
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 16:36
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Aurigny used to operate there ATR 42-500 into London city
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 16:57
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My previous post did not question the airline or aircraft ability to operate LCY. I am well aware of airlines past and present that have operated type into LCY. The question I posed concerned ATR aircraft performance ex LCY on sector lengths to IOM and DND!
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 18:38
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Originally Posted by runawayedge View Post
My previous post did not question the airline or aircraft ability to operate LCY. I am well aware of airlines past and present that have operated type into LCY. The question I posed concerned ATR aircraft performance ex LCY on sector lengths to IOM and DND!
Contactair operated LCY-HAM and STR, and possibly DUS (from memory) on the ATR42. I canít see IOM being a problem?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 20:06
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Contactair operated LCY-HAM and STR, and possibly DUS (from memory) on the ATR42. I canít see IOM being a problem?
Im sure Cimber Air operated to CPH on an ATR42 from LCY in the early 2000ís. Longer sector than DND or IOM.
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 21:12
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EuroManx used ATR42 on IOM & GWY services from LCY no problem
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 21:20
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Is this the last week of Saab 2000 ops on the LCY-IOM-LCY route?
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Old 5th Feb 2020, 21:46
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Today last day I believe. I'm scheduled on the ATR on Fri.
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