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Old 9th May 2020, 23:01
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Originally Posted by JSCL
Firstly, I dont live in the UK, but thanks for your concern!
Sorry, I got that wrong. Good for you then.
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Old 10th May 2020, 12:27
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JSCL - agreed on the potential for a fall.

If I was a betting man:

Prior to COVID I’d of put my money into Wizzair rather than Ryanair. Very sharp outfit with costs even lower than Ryanair and an incredibly disciplined model and a bold CEO.

Post COVID (more accurately - in the middle of it) I’d rather put my money into Ryanair rather than Wizzair. O’Leary is being his typical ‘under promise’ whilst privately preparing to ‘over deliver’ self.

I’m seriously concerned that Wizz is taking a very short term approach to this (and going against public opinion in terms of open borders right now) - are they prepared for the cash drain that operating in the current environment is going to inflict? How long will Inidgo Partners allow that? Not to mention the sheer insensitive nature of operating such a cavalier approach when safety should be top of their concerns.

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Old 10th May 2020, 21:24
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What % of the Wizz operation involves UK compared to Ryanair? Also Spain, Italy. This is what I’d be looking at. My hunch is Ryanair is more exposed in the markets that look toughest/potentially slowest to get going. Remember Covid hasn’t been so devastating in a lot of Wizz’s core bases so could explain why so bullish. Although they still need places to fly to!
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Old 11th May 2020, 10:31
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Wizz to operate flights to Abu Dhabi starting in June. Sounds like when Wizz gets their A321XLR they might do flights from UK to Abu Dhabi!!
Seems when they get their base set up, they'll do flights to the Indian subcontinent, Africa etc...
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Old 11th May 2020, 10:45
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''Bucharest, Budapest, and Sofia – together with Cluj-Napoca and Sofia – are all in Wizz Air’s top-10 airports. So too are London Luton, Warsaw, Gdansk, Vienna, and Dortmund. Given short runways at London Luton and Dortmund which may well prohibit fully-loaded, 239-seat A321neos to Abu Dhabi, Warsaw and Vienna are possible.''
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''Bucharest, Budapest, and Sofia – together with Cluj-Napoca and Sofia – are all in Wizz Air’s top-10 airports. So too are London Luton, Warsaw, Gdansk, Vienna, and Dortmund. Given short runways at London Luton and Dortmund which may well prohibit fully-loaded, 239-seat A321neos to Abu Dhabi, Warsaw and Vienna are possible.''
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Dortmund? Really? Don't know who are Anna Aero but they should dig a little bit deeper before saying something
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Old 11th May 2020, 13:21
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Dortmund? Really? Don't know who are Anna Aero but they should dig a little bit deeper before saying something
Your point being?
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Old 11th May 2020, 22:23
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Fire sale for cash and then renting at an inflated cost? Short term cash generator that will increase their base costs longer term?
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Old 11th May 2020, 22:49
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How come BOC Aviation can access cash when Wizz and other airlines can't ? Or are BOC being a bit too generous with their cash reserves ?
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Old 12th May 2020, 00:08
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BOC Aviation is a leasing company with the backing of Bank of China (aka BOC), they have recently done similar for Cathay Pacific & Southwest so just another sell & lease back deal.
Notice the press release said "We are very pleased to be supporting Wizz Air once again" so this would imply this sort of arrangement has been done before so may not be any real news. Do Wizzair actually own any aircraft?
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Old 12th May 2020, 13:30
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The third UK-registered A320 returned to Luton from storage in Doncaster last night.
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Old 13th May 2020, 16:44
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Airbus A321 G WUKG returned to Luton from Doncater this afternoon
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Old 16th May 2020, 13:47
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Todays Wizzair flight LTN to TFS was cancelled last night after the Spanish Authorities designated Gran Canaria as the sole airport in the Canaries allowed to accept international arrivals. Subsequently TFS complained, the authorities back tracked on their decision and will now allow TFS to accept international arrivals. Too late to reinstate the flight. P*ss up and Brewery spring to mind ......
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Happy Birthday Wizzair https://simpleflying.com/wizz-air-16th-anniversary/amp/
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Old 28th May 2020, 12:22
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Today two new bases opened:

Larnaca - 2 A320 will be based here, 10 new routes to Athens, Thessaloniki, Billund, Copenhagen, Dortmund, Memmingen, Karlsruhe/Baden Baden, Suceava, Turku, Wroclaw.

Milan Malpensa - 5 aircraft from July, 20 new routes to Luton, Eindhoven, Mahon, Tenerife, Gran Canaria, Valencia, Fuerteventura, Lisbon, Porto, Reykjavik, Tel Aviv, Pristina, Tallinn, Athens, Thessaloniki, Santorini, Corfu, Rhodes, Zakinthos, Marrakesh. Press conference on Milan Airports FB page.

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Old 28th May 2020, 13:08
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Wizzair seem to be moving significantly away from their "connect western Europe to eastern Europe" model towards something much nearer to what Ryanair do. Wizz is of course significantly smaller than either Easyjet or Ryanair and likely less well resourced than either of these 2 more dominant players. While salaries are low in eastern Europe, that's not the case in places like Milan or London. I know Norwegian are retrenching to the Nordic region, but is there room in the market for three major pan-Europe LCCs ?
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Old 28th May 2020, 13:32
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Spain

As well as Milan announced today, also Fuerteventura, Lanzarote, Malaga and Palma from Luton
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Old 28th May 2020, 13:59
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A base in Milan MXP and expansion to into key Mediteranean holiday airports from Luton? I feel this is more a kick in the teeth to EasyJet while they talk about fleet reduction and optimising their route network.

That said, Ryanair will also be very wary. Wizz is by some margin their biggest competition, simply due to their also very low cost base. I expect to see some form of Ryanair expansion in Milan and London following this.
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