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Do you think they will cancel flights from SXF? Ir doesn't make too much sense to operate flights with the same departure times from both airports to places like VIE or ZRH, having a lot more daily departures from TXL.

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Berlin Tegel – Dusseldorf eff 07JAN18 2 daily (1 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 07JAN18 5 daily (4 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Munich eff 07JAN18 8 daily (5 on Saturdays, 6 on Sundays; 1 flight also scheduled on 05JAN18)
Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Budapest eff 08JAN18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Catania eff 08JAN18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Copenhagen eff 07JAN18 2 daily
Berlin Tegel – Fuerteventura eff 03FEB18 1 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Helsinki eff 01MAR18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Madrid eff 07JAN18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Milan Malpensa eff 01MAR18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Palma Mallorca eff 07JAN18 2 daily
Berlin Tegel – Paphos eff 03MAR18 1 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Paris CDG eff 07JAN18 1 daily (2 daily from 01FEB18)
Berlin Tegel – Rome eff 07JAN18 1 daily (2 daily from 01MAR18)
Berlin Tegel – Stockholm Arlanda eff 01MAR18 2 daily
Berlin Tegel – Tel Aviv eff 01FEB18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Vienna eff 07JAN18 4 daily (5 daily from 01FEB18, 4 daily on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Zurich eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 daily on Saturdays; 5 daily from 01FEB18, 4 on Saturdays)
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...from-jan-2018/
AB had up to 12 daily flights TXL-MUC. MUC-TXL will be 20xLH, 8xEZY & 4xEW + high speed train (fastest in 4 hours).
By March a total of 15 aircraft are needed. MUC, FRA, VIE and ZRH will have a nightstop.
Flight times to CPH are not optimal for business traveller with departures at 10:10 and 14:40 out of Tegel.
HEL, MAD, MXP "just" daily. In Germany CGN and in Europe AMS, BRU, BCN, ATH as well as BSL, GVA and some UK destinations are missing so far. Would have expect some more business routes to go from SXF to TXL while SXF will be more leisure traffic (e.g. CTA daily out of SXF and use TXL slots for a city destination).
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 07JAN18 5 daily (4 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Munich eff 07JAN18 8 daily (5 on Saturdays, 6 on Sundays; 1 flight also scheduled on 05JAN18)
Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Budapest eff 08JAN18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Catania eff 08JAN18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Copenhagen eff 07JAN18 2 daily
Berlin Tegel – Fuerteventura eff 03FEB18 1 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Helsinki eff 01MAR18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Madrid eff 07JAN18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Milan Malpensa eff 01MAR18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Palma Mallorca eff 07JAN18 2 daily
Berlin Tegel – Paphos eff 03MAR18 1 weekly
Berlin Tegel – Paris CDG eff 07JAN18 1 daily (2 daily from 01FEB18)
Berlin Tegel – Rome eff 07JAN18 1 daily (2 daily from 01MAR18)
Berlin Tegel – Stockholm Arlanda eff 01MAR18 2 daily
Berlin Tegel – Tel Aviv eff 01FEB18 1 daily
Berlin Tegel – Vienna eff 07JAN18 4 daily (5 daily from 01FEB18, 4 daily on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Zurich eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 daily on Saturdays; 5 daily from 01FEB18, 4 on Saturdays)
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...from-jan-2018/
AB had up to 12 daily flights TXL-MUC. MUC-TXL will be 20xLH, 8xEZY & 4xEW + high speed train (fastest in 4 hours).
By March a total of 15 aircraft are needed. MUC, FRA, VIE and ZRH will have a nightstop.
Flight times to CPH are not optimal for business traveller with departures at 10:10 and 14:40 out of Tegel.
HEL, MAD, MXP "just" daily. In Germany CGN and in Europe AMS, BRU, BCN, ATH as well as BSL, GVA and some UK destinations are missing so far. Would have expect some more business routes to go from SXF to TXL while SXF will be more leisure traffic (e.g. CTA daily out of SXF and use TXL slots for a city destination).
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I'm going to go for Kavala, Greece. Always thought it would be a good fit for EZY from LGW. They are currently serving KVA whilst the runway at SKG undergoes maintenance. If not, maybe they could give Karpathos a go from LGW? Currently no served from UK at all.
As for Italy, my money is on Genoa.
As for Italy, my money is on Genoa.

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I'm going to go for Kavala, Greece. Always thought it would be a good fit for EZY from LGW. They are currently serving KVA whilst the runway at SKG undergoes maintenance. If not, maybe they could give Karpathos a go from LGW? Currently no served from UK at all.
As for Italy, my money is on Genoa.
As for Italy, my money is on Genoa.


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Berlin Tegel – Dusseldorf eff 07JAN18 2 daily (1 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 07JAN18 5 daily (4 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Munich eff 07JAN18 8 daily (5 on Saturdays, 6 on Sundays; 1 flight also scheduled on 05JAN18)
Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 on Saturdays)
I do not know the success, or not, of the plan, but I thought some years ago the German transport dept was urging pax to shift from aircraft to hi-speed trains for internal sectors: so much so that I thought you could even buy a through ticket on LH where the connecting sector to FRA or MUC, perhaps others, was by train and included in the ticket. Has that worked out, was it ever implemented? There are many routes, even UK, where a city centre- city centre train journey, with working and/or relaxing time, is highly preferable to a pain in the rear trip via 2 airports and all the ensuing stress and possible chaos and delays. If train companies got their ticket prices and overall pax experience sorted out they could stuff airlines on many routes. I used to wonder at the London centre guys who slogged it up to LTN or STN to then go through the mill and how to catch an ez or FR flight to GLA or EDI, when a hi-speed train with dinner was so much more attractive. Was it just price that drove that market? Certainly not the last 20 seats or so. Are the trains, with reserved seats, so expensive? TALIS & TGV and the German version are tops.
I know RYR undercut the BCN-MAD train ticket substantially. The train was businessmen prices. North South in Italy should be possible with train as an alternative; and France. Not sure about East-West in France; yet.
Berlin Tegel – Frankfurt eff 07JAN18 5 daily (4 on Saturdays)
Berlin Tegel – Munich eff 07JAN18 8 daily (5 on Saturdays, 6 on Sundays; 1 flight also scheduled on 05JAN18)
Berlin Tegel – Stuttgart eff 07JAN18 4 daily (3 on Saturdays)
I do not know the success, or not, of the plan, but I thought some years ago the German transport dept was urging pax to shift from aircraft to hi-speed trains for internal sectors: so much so that I thought you could even buy a through ticket on LH where the connecting sector to FRA or MUC, perhaps others, was by train and included in the ticket. Has that worked out, was it ever implemented? There are many routes, even UK, where a city centre- city centre train journey, with working and/or relaxing time, is highly preferable to a pain in the rear trip via 2 airports and all the ensuing stress and possible chaos and delays. If train companies got their ticket prices and overall pax experience sorted out they could stuff airlines on many routes. I used to wonder at the London centre guys who slogged it up to LTN or STN to then go through the mill and how to catch an ez or FR flight to GLA or EDI, when a hi-speed train with dinner was so much more attractive. Was it just price that drove that market? Certainly not the last 20 seats or so. Are the trains, with reserved seats, so expensive? TALIS & TGV and the German version are tops.
I know RYR undercut the BCN-MAD train ticket substantially. The train was businessmen prices. North South in Italy should be possible with train as an alternative; and France. Not sure about East-West in France; yet.

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RAT5, a lot of business between GLA/EDI and LGW/LTN/SEN and also LHR isn't going into the centre of London. Yes some will "slog" it to the outer airports but a fair few will be heading to Brighton, Cambridge, Milton Keynes, Oxford etc etc or vice versa.

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So far:
Luton - Reus/Genoa/Thessaloniki/Palermo/Dalaman
Gatwick - Volos/Ancona
Southend - Bordeaux/Dubrovnik/Pula/Prague
Bristol - Genoa/Seville
Belfast - Isle of Man/Naples/Valencia
Manchester - Genoa
Liverpool - Palermo/Dalaman/Pula
Luton - Reus/Genoa/Thessaloniki/Palermo/Dalaman
Gatwick - Volos/Ancona
Southend - Bordeaux/Dubrovnik/Pula/Prague
Bristol - Genoa/Seville
Belfast - Isle of Man/Naples/Valencia
Manchester - Genoa
Liverpool - Palermo/Dalaman/Pula
Last edited by toledoashley; 12th Dec 2017 at 09:22.
