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Old 2nd May 2020, 15:13
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UK government giving money to an Irish airline to operate BHD LHR? Why is our government spending our taxes on a foreign airline when there are at least 2 British Airlines flying from Belfast to London?
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Old 2nd May 2020, 15:31
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At a guess, BA are dropping BHD

My bad, it had aready been announced.
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Old 2nd May 2020, 16:46
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Originally Posted by planedrive View Post
UK government giving money to an Irish airline to operate BHD LHR? Why is our government spending our taxes on a foreign airline when there are at least 2 British Airlines flying from Belfast to London?
Who are the two "British" airlines flying Belfast to London?
Although EI are seen as Irish, register their planes in Ireland and operate under an Irish Certificate, they are owned by IAG (as are BA), a Spanish entity with ultimate ownership spread across various countries.
It's difficult to ascribe a national identity to many enterprises in the modern age.
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Old 3rd May 2020, 00:30
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Originally Posted by planedrive View Post
UK government giving money to an Irish airline to operate BHD LHR? Why is our government spending our taxes on a foreign airline when there are at least 2 British Airlines flying from Belfast to London?
oh dear, you have to love this! Why to me as Irish person does this feel oppressive. My parentage is Northern 'Irish' and your comments feel just the same as the oppressive anti Irish commentary that I often hear in the NI media.
Most people in the North avoid this kind of commentary for obvious reasons. We now look forward as part of a shared society recognising that while NI certainly is in the UK, it also is part of the Island of Ireland, the two parts which are inextricably linked and share many things, like electricity grid, gas, infrastructure, tourism etc etc.

There actually are few Irish or British airlines left.
I'd agree with the subsequent poster who commented about BA not returning, I think sadly that this is a distinct possibility. We may need to rely on that Irish airline for our linkage to LHR from the province and indeed a London link to BHD ...
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Old 3rd May 2020, 10:33
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Originally Posted by GrahamK View Post
At a guess, BA are dropping BHD

My bad, it had aready been announced.
Has this actually been announced? They are still showing flights in November, not that, that means anything at the moment.
I hope they don't drop the route the current EI schedule means that a day return from Heathrow to Belfast isn't really possible.

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Old 3rd May 2020, 12:57
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Originally Posted by camperdown9 View Post
Has this actually been announced? They are still showing flights in November, not that, that means anything at the moment.
I hope they don't drop the route the current EI schedule means that a day return from Heathrow to Belfast isn't really possible.

Alex
Actually hoping that BA CityFlyer pick up the route to LCY. Loads were good on FlyBe and the Embraer would perhaps be a better fit for the near future as well with loads vs profit?
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Old 4th May 2020, 16:31
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I have no words for the following. Where are these people going to/from (and apparently it really is from this morning).

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Old 4th May 2020, 17:03
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I have already asked this but got no response.
Who would be a legitimate passenger on such a flight?
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Old 4th May 2020, 17:04
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[QUOTE=cuthere;10772339]I have no words for the following. Where are these people going to/from (and apparently it really is from this morning).

I wouldn't lose sleep over it, it's called living a normal life. Although, it was to be expected that people would turn to social media to portray their false sense of outrage. If the person on Twitter was so aghast, why the hell were they travelling. The sooner all of the doom merchants return to their cave and stay there, the sooner it will return to normal for the rest of us who are not taken in by the Government sponsered and media led paranioa.
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Old 4th May 2020, 17:40
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Given the cost of housing in London, quite a few people commute for a week while keeping their home elsewhere. Nurses for example.
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Old 4th May 2020, 17:57
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The sooner all of the doom merchants return to their cave and stay there, the sooner it will return to normal for the rest of us who are not taken in by the Government sponsered and media led paranioa.
Fine of course to "live a normal life" if you don't know anyone who's been affected, or don't give a sh!t about the people who have died (a number that is probably still low-balled in the UK and elsewhere), or who have to deal with it every day in the NHS and other parts of the healthcare industry, military etc.

The kind of selfish attitude that is the one that will probably elongate the lockdown rather than get us all to where we want to be.
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Old 4th May 2020, 20:42
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Construction workers going back to work in London probably accounts for a high number of the punters. Key point as well is this was the Monday flight. Not sure the rest of the week would be as busy
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Old 5th May 2020, 00:42
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Originally Posted by cuthere View Post
I have no words for the following. Where are these people going to/from (and apparently it really is from this morning).

https://mobile.twitter.com/kellybonn...400831491?s=21
What social distancing is she talking about? The empty middle-seat thing? We all know it s nonsense, it doesn't work ..It would require at least two empty rows in case a fellow passenger sneezes or coughs , to have some sort of safe distance from droplets and i am not sure even for that, having seen the vid that shows how it spreads around in the cabin..What is left then? Masks and gloves , sanitizers...Nothing else can be done on board
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Old 5th May 2020, 08:02
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I’ve fixed the newspaper headline:

‘Person Travelling on Belfast-London Flight Upset Other People Travelling on Belfast-London Flight’
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Old 5th May 2020, 12:44
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My sister-in-law works as a staff nurse in a hospital in Birmingham. I’d love some of you armchair pundits to join her for a shift.

As an aside. I certainly think the route is essential. I have a few points which may have already been made:

• EI and the airport will have known the flight was nearly full.
• Neither (apparently) implemented any procedures which would reflect advice from the WHO (any epidemiologists on here want to argue with them?).
• both are being subsidised to operate the route.

Perhaps EI need to look at their scheduling and booking procedures, and a few posters on here need to look at themselves.
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Old 5th May 2020, 13:14
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Hard with flight deck based in Dublin, cabin crew based in BHD, hotels closed so not sure how they could increase the schedule but i see the BA now showing a flight to from LHR in June so this might take pressure off a little
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Old 5th May 2020, 15:47
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Originally Posted by cuthere View Post
My sister-in-law works as a staff nurse in a hospital in Birmingham. I’d love some of you armchair pundits to join her for a shift.

As an aside. I certainly think the route is essential. I have a few points which may have already been made:

• EI and the airport will have known the flight was nearly full.
• Neither (apparently) implemented any procedures which would reflect advice from the WHO (any epidemiologists on here want to argue with them?).
• both are being subsidised to operate the route.

Perhaps EI need to look at their scheduling and booking procedures, and a few posters on here need to look at themselves.
Every flight is "theoretically full" as its the summer season. Generally less than 10 turn up. The issue is not with the booking engine.
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Old 5th May 2020, 15:54
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Originally Posted by MCDU2 View Post
Every flight is "theoretically full" as its the summer season. Generally less than 10 turn up. The issue is not with the booking engine.
When dealing with EI flights from my local airport before being furloughed, the booked loads were anywhere between 700-900 for an A320 due to combining multiple daily flights. The flights rearly departed with double figures. I expect the same happened here, however, more than EI expected actually turned up.
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Old 5th May 2020, 16:06
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When dealing with EI flights from my local airport before being furloughed, the booked loads were anywhere between 700-900 for an A320 due to combining multiple daily flights. The flights rearly departed with double figures. I expect the same happened here, however, more than EI expected actually turned up.
Would it make sense for EI to send an A321 up to operate LHR? It would reduce the risk of this happening again.
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Old 5th May 2020, 16:24
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No wonder the Aer Lingus, Belfast-Heathrow flights are full, easyJet and BA flights are not currently operating between Belfast and London, and you also have the loss of FlyBE exacerbating the situation.

It was inevitable this would happen, and I don’t quite understand the shock or press coverage.

There are 1.8 million people in Northern Ireland and those who need to travel to/from London are fighting to get one of around 450 seats on the route per day is each direction, when usually there would probably be 8-10 times more seats available! Looking on their website, they are currently already sold out on numerous days.

Even if the middle seats are left free that only separates you by around 60-75cm from the other person, and why are Aer Lingus going to want to leave the middle seat free to economy passengers when people in business class paying 2-3 time more get this as the about the only perk.

If you want to fly at the moment, you need to face up to the fact social distancing onboard an aircraft is impossible!
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