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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 18:37
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Looks like its a nightstopper as first Dep ex BHD is at 0645. I wonder if Stobart will show there cards now re the LGW slots they applied for. BA to LCY also opens up some interesting onward connections all subject to COVID-19 and the market picking up.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 19:00
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Looks like its a nightstopper as first Dep ex BHD is at 0645. I wonder if Stobart will show there cards now re the LGW slots they applied for. BA to LCY also opens up some interesting onward connections all subject to COVID-19 and the market picking up.
BA has not announced this Belfast City to London City yet but only added on Sell, I sure we might hear something next with Stobart Air with LGW, BHX, MAN, EDI.
Not sure if this with franchise operator Aer Lingus or could be also new franchise with British Airways?
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 19:41
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Originally Posted by allan1987
BA has not announced this Belfast City to London City yet but only added on Sell, I sure we might hear something next with Stobart Air with LGW, BHX, MAN, EDI.
Not sure if this with franchise operator Aer Lingus or could be also new franchise with British Airways?
Its Aer Lingus. There was some kind of hurdle with the Irish pilot union IALPA which apparently has now been overcome in order to allow Aer Lingus Regional operated by Stobart Air to commence operations with ATR 72 only (no jets)
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 19:59
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Its Aer Lingus. There was some kind of hurdle with the Irish pilot union IALPA which apparently has now been overcome in order to allow Aer Lingus Regional operated by Stobart Air to commence operations with ATR 72 only (no jets)
BA booking engine has BACF flight number and Embraer as aircraft type ...
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 20:26
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Who cares who is doing it just rejoice in the fact someone is with an aeroplane 3 times a day with first dep from BHD to help businesses recover. It will help hotel trade with crew rooms, taxi companies with crew transport and generally help us all in the aviation in game at BHD and wiser afield.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 22:18
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Brilliant news, Hope this is the start of another wave of good news for BHD. First GLA (with decent times.) and this. Increased frequencies (when demand increases again) on SOU wouldn’t go amiss either. All the best to those involved.
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Old 2nd Jul 2020, 23:36
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LCY will be operated by BA CityFlyer using E190s.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 07:22
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Also looks like it will be a LCY based aircraft operating ex London at 0700hrs MoTuWe and then afternoon ThFrSu - at least for the initial start up.
Will not be BHD based unless this changes with more freequency.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 08:17
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Originally Posted by JobsaGoodun
Also looks like it will be a LCY based aircraft operating ex London at 0700hrs MoTuWe and then afternoon ThFrSu - at least for the initial start up.
Will not be BHD based unless this changes with more freequency.
From 25th October there will be a nightstopping aircraft, allowing a 0645 departure Saturday to Friday.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 09:32
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The word on the internal comms is the increase to 3 a day will be subject to bookings. It's a simple case of use it or loose it for the future if there is little uptake. Hoping this will be a big success knowing FlyBe gave such a good service on the route.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 10:26
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Originally Posted by panpanpanpan
Looks like some good news for Harbour at last, I really hope new routes revive this friendly little airport again.

Several points I suppose. FlyBe couldn't make the Embraer work, reading some of the other threads it appears the Embraer deals were one of the millstones round their neck, what's different that will make this route profitable on relatively short sectors. I read somewhere the Embraer has the cost footprint of an Airbus but with two thirds of the seats - not sure how true this is.

With the rumours of these new routes, is this finally the end of the FlyBe resurrection rumours? A new version would simply be competing on every profitable route they originally had.

Again with the rumours of new routes, will this in any form reduce the threat to all the ground handlers that are/were about to be made redundant? I truly hope so.

I know the London City route was always very busy with FlyBe, I really hope it works again for a new airline. The only worry is the current market but hopefully that will recover, I am sure all routes will be carefully monitored for profitability over the next while!
Flybe couldn’t make the E195’s work because of the leasing deal they had. The 175’s were a bit different - for the extra 10 seats over the Q400 it made operating at full capacity the same fixed costs as the q400 or as close to as possible. That was why they had to sign up to a Brazilian bank for the lease of them but they had to always be full.

flybe couldn’t fly any of these EMB’s into LCY as they weren’t rated. They flew the Eastern E170 for a season which was always full - and don’t forget towards the end flybe were 6 or 7 daily on the route. They had lots of corporate contracts on the route too.

With the aircraft being a night stopper this will potentially save some jobs but it’s only 1 aircraft - a step in the direction they need but will need more than 1 aircraft to help prevent the job losses proposed by SWISSPORT.

Hopefully the rumours about EI pilots being ok about EIR setting up BHD ops will come to fruition and this would help other aircraft be based at the airport. This will save jobs. Hopefully they start the proposed MAN BHX EDI and London routes that they have applied for slots for.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 11:09
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LCY was also reasonably popular with onward connections but as BE and BA cut there links it was a chancey option. BA will be able to tap into this market. It is probably not a massive number of passengers but still a fair few. I wonder if BA got the NHS contract as it accounted for a lot of the BE traffic to LCY.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 12:12
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Bhd airport have just posted a video regarding the new LCY route.
The airport ceo also said “this is the first of a number of announcements over the next fortnight”

Could the airport be set to confirm EIR operations or perhaps other airlines/routes?
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 13:27
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Originally Posted by DUB19
Bhd airport have just posted a video regarding the new LCY route.
The airport ceo also said “this is the first of a number of announcements over the next fortnight”

Could the airport be set to confirm EIR operations or perhaps other airlines/routes?
As I have said elsewhere I would expect VFR traffic to be the first to recover and traffic between NI and GB to be at the front of that growth where road and rail aren't an option/competitive. BHD traditionally had a strong network to the rest of the UK, so I think it will be relatively better off than other airports. Still impacted between flyBe and COVID, of course, but possibly not as badly effected as airports with a high number of Sun flights - which will be decimated for summer 2020 compared to the planned capacity.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 14:00
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Originally Posted by DUB19
Bhd airport have just posted a video regarding the new LCY route.
The airport ceo also said “this is the first of a number of announcements over the next fortnight”

Could the airport be set to confirm EIR operations or perhaps other airlines/routes?
Maybe these announcements are from Eastern as was intimated before lockdown!
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 14:27
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Probably a mix of Eastern and EI. Lets be honest not a lot of choice left!! Blue Islands?? More Loganair. Very doubtful it would be any European carriers.
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 21:39
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When are KLM due back?
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Originally Posted by BFS/BHD
When are KLM due back?
August 3rd
Daily E175 / E190
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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 22:38
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
Probably a mix of Eastern and EI. Lets be honest not a lot of choice left!! Blue Islands?? More Loganair. Very doubtful it would be any European carriers.
Birmingham, Edinburgh, Manchester and Gatwick are new slots that have been given to Stobart Air from slot-controlled airports. Hopefully there will be more than 4 routes, might be routes to Bristol, Isle of Man, Leeds/Bradford, Newcastle upon Tyne, and London Southend since these Stobart Air fly these routes from Dublin, Expect London Southend.

Eastern Airways might add routes from Belfast City to

Cardiff, Carlisle, and Humberside,


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Old 3rd Jul 2020, 22:44
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Tell me more about the financial strength of these airlines to to set up a bunch of new routes and maintain them until they are profitable, in the current climate?
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