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Old 12th Mar 2018, 18:02
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So this explains the nomination for the Marketing Award?

Well done to the Harbour marketing team!
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Old 14th Mar 2018, 19:32
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I see Jet Go holidays will be using Germania for their package holidays operating on a Sunday morning
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Old 15th Mar 2018, 10:30
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I wonder is that a w pattern or a PMI based aircraft?
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 15:37
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CAA January Stats

In January BHD handled 163,123 passengers, a 3% increase on last year.

Domestic Routes;

The majority of domestic routes saw impressive growth;

ABZ (+7%), CWL (+52%), EMA (+15%), EDI (+5%), EXT (+5%), INV (+26%), LCY (+42%), LHR (+3%)

Five routes saw a decrease in passenger number;.

BHX (-2%), GLA (-10%), IOM (-65%), LBA (-1%), LPL (-21%)

International Routes;

AMS continues to perform well (+12%), and it is clear that a second daily flight is needed as soon as possible.

KEF unsurprisingly is performing poorly, with a load factor of just 26%, and SZG passenger numbers are down as well (-45%).
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 16:28
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Feb 2018 174,427 passengers. I believe similar to last February
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 16:45
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
Feb 2018 174,427 passengers. I believe similar to last February
Where did you get that information from??
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 17:07
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BFS BHD

Stats are published on BHD website. Rolling total for 2018 is published so subtracted A320. B744 figure. 337550 for first two months of the year

Belfast City Airport - Performance & Statistics| Belfast City Airport
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 18:30
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
BFS BHD

Stats are published on BHD website. Rolling total for 2018 is published so subtracted A320. B744 figure. 337550 for first two months of the year

Belfast City Airport - Performance & Statistics| Belfast City Airport
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 20:49
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
Feb 2018 174,427 passengers. I believe similar to last February
Yes, very similar - just 0.7% growth in February.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 21:12
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Get that flipping second AMS and maybe a STN or a LGW a few times a day
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 22:04
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Get that flipping second AMS and maybe a STN or a LGW a few times a day
Getting that second daily AMS flight should be BHD management’s top priority.

What airline would operate a potential BHD-STN route though? The only airlines I can think of are easyJet and Ryanair, neither of which would operate from BHD.

Given that Ryanair have returned their LGW slots to IAG, is Aer Lingus now allowed to resume BHD-LGW? If not, I can’t see the route making a return in the near future.

Given that Flybe’s BHD-LCY route seems to be performing well, and will soon be operated up to x6 daily, I wonder if BA CityFlyer will go into competition on the route. I’m surprised that BA have allowed Flybe to establish such a strong foot hole on the route.
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 22:26
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With EZY availability for the winter period maybe EZY will increase flights to AMS in winter 18/19
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 09:28
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Jets Go are not bonded by ABTA/ATOL They claim they are bonded by Spanish regional government funding. I asked them directly and also questioned BHD on social media some months ago and still awaiting a reply. Definitely would not book my holiday with this outfit.
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 11:49
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Even if they gave IAG bacl the slots are IAG allowed to operate?
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 12:55
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Don’t believe so. They’re “Remedy Slots”, a trade-off for the EU sanctioning the acquisition of Aer Lingus by IAG.

If IAG started operating the same route again, the measure would cease to be a Remedy!
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 14:33
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The remedy slots are to enable a competitor to operate.
IAG could have continued to operate the BHD/LGW service and provided the LGW slots
From elsewhere.They chose to provide the slots by chopping BHD/LGW.

BA had to provide remedy slots on ABZ and EDI when they absorbed BMI.
They actually increased frequency on ABZ aNd made available the slots from elsewhere.
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Old 24th Mar 2018, 14:41
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Originally Posted by Cozy F View Post
Don’t believe so. They’re “Remedy Slots”, a trade-off for the EU sanctioning the acquisition of Aer Lingus by IAG.

If IAG started operating the same route again, the measure would cease to be a Remedy!
I don't think that is the way the remedy slots work. I think IAG are obliged to provide 5 slots available if an airline wants to provide competition of the Belfast and Dublin to London routes. I don't think there is anything stopping IAG also operating the route if they want to.

Understandably though the Belfast - Gatwick route was sacrificed to provide some of the slots as Aer Lingus would come off badly if in competition with both Ryanair and Easyjet.

I don't think there is much chance though of IAG using the slots for Belfast again though, as they think they can make more money using them elsewhere.

To be honest though, I think it could be profitable if IAG were operate the route under BA, as it would benefit from connecting traffic from other BA services at Gatwick as well as business one and one traffic. It don't think BA would need to compete with Easyjet in price in quite the same way as Aer Lingus would need to do.
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Old 25th Mar 2018, 17:03
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Originally Posted by DC9_10 View Post
Jets Go are not bonded by ABTA/ATOL They claim they are bonded by Spanish regional government funding. I asked them directly and also questioned BHD on social media some months ago and still awaiting a reply. Definitely would not book my holiday with this outfit.
Bit silly to be trying to claim they are not bonded or insinuate they are dodgy, if they didn't have the required licensing or bonding the CAA would have shut them down years ago since they launched from Manchester a few years back, especially after what happened with lowcost having a tiny bond for the size of their operation. Airports are not generally stupid, they do due diligence on any operator who they are looking to work with and one of the first things they'd check is to make sure an airline or tour operator is licensed etc before they start supporting them.

As always when booking flights with any operator, just book with a credit card and you're given full protection anyway under the consumer credit act. I had my money back in my account a week after Monarch went under as I had booked with a credit card.
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Old 25th Mar 2018, 19:34
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That last post looked suspiciously like a ‘vote of confidence’ in a football manager!

Indeed use of a credit card offers some protection to the consumer in the regrettable event of any problems. Equally people can also fly from BFS to Palma with Thomas Cook, easyJet, Jet2 & TUI, all offering greater flexibility on a schedule much more intensive than one flight weekly.

Also, wouldn’t give too much credit to airports covering all eventualities through due diligence of airlines or operators. Pressure exists to grow business and it may well be just a matter of doing a deal with whoever shows interest!?

Still, good luck to them. It’s great to see new operators giving the NI market a go. Far too many are one season wonders or never even try at all.
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Old 25th Mar 2018, 20:07
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Originally Posted by OneBellEnd View Post
That last post looked suspiciously like a ‘vote of confidence’ in a football manager!

Indeed use of a credit card offers some protection to the consumer in the regrettable event of any problems. Equally people can also fly from BFS to Palma with Thomas Cook, easyJet, Jet2 & TUI, all offering greater flexibility on a schedule much more intensive than one flight weekly
Also, wouldn’t give too much credit to airports covering all eventualities through due diligence of airlines or operators. Pressure exists to grow business and it may well be just a matter of doing a deal with whoever shows interest!?

Still, good luck to them. It’s great to see new operators giving the NI market a go. Far too many are one season wonders or never even try at all.
Just a bit fed up of people always looking for some reason to put something down, seems to be a British culture thing more so than anything, it's like some people are actually willingly wanting companies to fail and people to lose their jobs, like over in the BHX thread about Primera, rather than just getting behind them and saying good luck as you have.

I stand by my comment about an airport due diligence though, having worked in route development before, we wouldn't put our brand name and money behind an airline or tour operator unless we knew they were a genuine outfit and had the required licensing to operate, regardless of commercial pressures, egg on face if it turns out they don't like Waterford last year. Given there are so few smaller operators these days, the CAA are all over any start-ups that are announced like a rash to make sure they are above board.
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