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Old 19th Nov 2017, 18:42
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Edinburgh is Scotland’s economic powerhouse, research shows as off Oct2017.

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Old 19th Nov 2017, 20:37
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...anyway back to specifics of GLA aviation
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 20:53
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Originally Posted by Callum Paterson View Post
The A380 coming to Glasgow is indeed great news for Scotland as a whole
Really? Why? The average Joe won't care. The spotters will be excited for a few days until the novelty wears off. There'll be a few extra seats to flog and a loss of cargo capacity.

The airport taxi ways are too narrow so ops shut everything down and everyone has to wait. The last time it was in the rest of the world had to stop. If it's the same for regular ops then it's going to be a right pain in the a***.

Oh and it's a fugly looking thing
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 21:07
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Hence the only 1st Class Cabin to/from Scotland and not hanging onto the coatails of the Scottish executive at Dumbiedykes A380 looks a goer now, double airbridge and a wee bit of disruption a couple of times a day worth it for such an Iconic aircraft, it was done once they can do it again, day in day out, also the new Stand at Campsie Snacks may well be available in case one goes u/s or diverts in?
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 21:33
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Exactly my point. It will be the best part of 20-25 mins shut down for 1 arrival by the time ops have done a sweep and shut the roads. There are other airlines and people just wanting to get on with it.

If it's the lunchtime flight which switches to the whale first it will be bedlam during all the charter LS/MT/TOM turns as well as all the rest.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 22:09
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad View Post
Those of us doing 4-6 sector days through Glasgow may beg to differ. Nothing more irritating not moving for 10 minutes because the Emirates might be going to push.. the rest of us have fare paying pax too so why should they all be delayed so the mighty Emirates A380 isn't inconvenienced? ATC have only recently stopped slowing us all down while still in the Scottish sector as the Emirates is within 20 mins... makes you wonder how hard ball Emirates must negotiate..
I'm sure everything will go pretty slick once they get in the groove.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 22:14
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Originally Posted by sdh2903 View Post
Exactly my point. It will be the best part of 20-25 mins shut down for 1 arrival by the time ops have done a sweep and shut the roads. There are other airlines and people just wanting to get on with it.

If it's the lunchtime flight which switches to the whale first it will be bedlam during all the charter LS/MT/TOM turns as well as all the rest.

GLA's peaks are early am and pm, the lunchtime flight will be Ideal as it's pretty quiet, let's just appreciate how prestigious this is for Scotland's Powerhouse region and not get petty, I'm sure pax will switch from less prestigious flights from Scotland to the Middle East due this particular aircraft type due its quietness and public perception for comfort and cabin air quality etc.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 22:27
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GLA's peaks are early am and pm, the lunchtime flight will be Ideal as it's pretty quiet
Really? You've obviously not been around the West pier from around 12 noon this summer then.
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Richard Taylor View Post
'Powerhouse city'.............

Well - for west central Scotland I suppose.

You've never visited my loon then, have you
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Old 19th Nov 2017, 22:33
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Originally Posted by sdh2903 View Post
Really? You've obviously not been around the West pier from around 12 noon this summer then.
Ever traversed through Newark NJ?
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 07:09
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ATC have only recently stopped slowing us all down while still in the Scottish sector as the Emirates is within 20 mins
This is for Manchester? It’s taxiways were never designed for anything that big on a daily basis, Glasgow even less so. The fact that Emirates put a B777 in the grass due to the limitations of the taxiway at the 23 hold is a clue. Great news for GLA if they can pull it off without the farcical procedures MAN began with, in all honesty 3xB77W might make more sense but they went and ordered a huge fleet of the “iconic” Fugly and now have to fly it somewhere.

However the West Pier wasn’t intended for this either and the chaos when Emirates board a full B77W on 30 at the same time they’re trying to board a TUI 757 on 32 is quite the experience, more so when the EK queue gets in the way of boarding on 29 too.


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Old 20th Nov 2017, 07:41
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Originally Posted by LFT View Post
Ever traversed through Newark NJ?
Your point being?
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 07:46
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Better to be safe than sorry, rather have a small delay than a big dent and a further very big delay. Manchester does very well even had 4 on deck at once and Heathrow were very cautious at first.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 08:06
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I am in no position to comment re the operational aspects of A380 at GLA. However, as a frequent EK pax (from London) I can comment that the pax experience in A380 vs 777 (in current config) really is chalk and cheese and I would expect the impact of EK switching one daily flight to A380 would be such that they will swiftly switch the second flight as well.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 08:40
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
The fact that Emirates put a B777 in the grass due to the limitations of the taxiway at the 23 hold is a clue.

Yes, that was a 777 backtracking then vacating at B to Hold at A IIRC, shouldn't even have been attempted (check Google Earth) but easily fixable if required with a 'filet' of tarmac.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 09:28
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Yes, that was a 777 backtracking then vacating at B to Hold at A IIRC, shouldn't even have been attempted (check Google Earth) but easily fixable if required with a 'filet' of tarmac.
Was a lineup that had to clear on B to line up again on A.
Better to be safe than sorry, rather have a small delay than a big dent and a further very big delay
Fair point BUT the issue is that the rest of the airfield shouldn't have to grind to a halt once or twice daily for a scheduled flight, but they'll have all the pain of the MAN/LGW/LHR experience to learn from. There's not much room for wingtips towards Loganair, would it be an enter at E to vacate F and line up at G if they're departing 05?
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 09:55
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo View Post
There's not much room for wingtips towards Loganair, would it be an enter at E to vacate F and line up at G if they're departing 05?

Plenty room now as there was then, the Loganair Ops building is now gone -


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Old 20th Nov 2017, 12:23
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What Willy Wombat said, the difference in cattle class between A380 and B777 is marked, wider seats and just nicer.

But please Emirates, don't go 11 abreast on the whale, it will backfire on you.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 13:10
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Originally Posted by chaps1954 View Post
Better to be safe than sorry, rather have a small delay than a big dent and a further very big delay. Manchester does very well even had 4 on deck at once and Heathrow were very cautious at first.
I would have thought that BHX ops would be more similar to Glasgow. There are two A380 per day and nobody seems to bat an eye lid.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 14:49
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Tim Clark quoted in "Flight" today as saying he sees little benefit to Emirates in the 11 a-breast seating.
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