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Could have been; the Titan crane is still there. I found information on the internet about structures radiused out from runway ends a few years ago when the discussion about a Central Scotland airport was running. It's still on my map and the runway end needed to be 1600 Mtrs from a row of quite high electricity pylons.
The Titan is 2000 Mtrs. from the threshold of 25. I also remember a business in Rothesay Dock having a planning problem over a silo or something they wanted to erect, it was only a few years ago.
From your earlier post Abbotsinch Rd. is only 180 Mtrs. from the runway centreline at the bend approaching the junction between the bridges. This is getting close to the safe distance, which was/is 150mtrs? It is over 200mtrs. at the threshold.
The Titan is 2000 Mtrs. from the threshold of 25. I also remember a business in Rothesay Dock having a planning problem over a silo or something they wanted to erect, it was only a few years ago.
From your earlier post Abbotsinch Rd. is only 180 Mtrs. from the runway centreline at the bend approaching the junction between the bridges. This is getting close to the safe distance, which was/is 150mtrs? It is over 200mtrs. at the threshold.
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I must admit I did wonder if the last few months figures were correct as July I think averaged 364 a flight which for a 360 seat service is pretty good.
Obviously the answer was in the aircraft that operated with several 428 seat two class versions operated.
August was not much different 43894 pax average 354 pax or 98% load factor based on the published seat-maps.
FR24 shows eight two class versions operated on EK25/27 giving a total seat availability of 45728 or 96% load factor.
I can't believe any airline would want that to continue as pax must be going elsewhere and simple answer would be to change to two 428 seat aircraft giving 53072 seats and that would give a load factor of 83%.
This of course would wipe out first class and maybe if that is selling reasonably well they could do what they do at Manchester and offer a mix with EK25 maybe operating with 428 seats and EK27 with 360.
I can't believe if these figures are correct an airline like Emirates would allow this to happen for too long.
Another alternative is as suggested and add the 517/519 seat three class A388 although this could come at a cost like at BHX (airport infrastructure).
What I am sure they will do is tread carefully before adding an early morning service as BHX could only fill the aircraft during school holiday and mid winter and I believe Rome, Munich, Milan at times found their early morning flight struggling (Milan now has the JFK tag).
Emirates are now twice daily at BHX and it appears Turkish are the early beneficiaries but in Glasgow's case that could mean more pax making the first part of their journey to EDI.
Very interesting to see how this one goes but if the 428 seater is out it surely will be the 388.
I must admit I did wonder if the last few months figures were correct as July I think averaged 364 a flight which for a 360 seat service is pretty good.
Obviously the answer was in the aircraft that operated with several 428 seat two class versions operated.
August was not much different 43894 pax average 354 pax or 98% load factor based on the published seat-maps.
FR24 shows eight two class versions operated on EK25/27 giving a total seat availability of 45728 or 96% load factor.
I can't believe any airline would want that to continue as pax must be going elsewhere and simple answer would be to change to two 428 seat aircraft giving 53072 seats and that would give a load factor of 83%.
This of course would wipe out first class and maybe if that is selling reasonably well they could do what they do at Manchester and offer a mix with EK25 maybe operating with 428 seats and EK27 with 360.
I can't believe if these figures are correct an airline like Emirates would allow this to happen for too long.
Another alternative is as suggested and add the 517/519 seat three class A388 although this could come at a cost like at BHX (airport infrastructure).
What I am sure they will do is tread carefully before adding an early morning service as BHX could only fill the aircraft during school holiday and mid winter and I believe Rome, Munich, Milan at times found their early morning flight struggling (Milan now has the JFK tag).
Emirates are now twice daily at BHX and it appears Turkish are the early beneficiaries but in Glasgow's case that could mean more pax making the first part of their journey to EDI.
Very interesting to see how this one goes but if the 428 seater is out it surely will be the 388.
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Wow third time lucky for Lufty on this one? Did not see this coming especially after Air France gave up on CDG for the 3rd time last year.
Great news.
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Lufthansa will be fighting off Ryanair now that the latter has entered the FRA market in a big way. like how LH announced a 5th daily to MAN just after Ryanair announced their flights, with similar timings to that service. Coincidence! Doubt it.
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Excellent having LH FRA. Whole different ballgame now since the last FRA attempt, German routes have really 'taken off'.
I suspected AF CDG was never going to work, AF is not a hugely popular brand locally, timings were not great for connections and P2P was adequately covered. If FR started Paris, the P2P out and inbound numbers would flourish.
Hopefully LH FRA will follow their other recent GLA successes and expansion and people will support. A great *A connection to have on mainline.
I suspected AF CDG was never going to work, AF is not a hugely popular brand locally, timings were not great for connections and P2P was adequately covered. If FR started Paris, the P2P out and inbound numbers would flourish.
Hopefully LH FRA will follow their other recent GLA successes and expansion and people will support. A great *A connection to have on mainline.
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Fancy it could be a bloodbath to FRA. I am not surprised Munich has done well, given it has the appeal of beer and football and its a lesser service, so as a point to point destination it definitely appeals to many people in the West of Scotland.
To me, Frankfurt has a battle on its hands to oust the strongholds of Dublin, Amsterdam, Dubai and London, and probably to a lesser extent KEF, as they have only just went daily but they have been a fixture at GLA for sometime now too. Preferably I hope LH wins out against FR if anything is to drop.
To me, Frankfurt has a battle on its hands to oust the strongholds of Dublin, Amsterdam, Dubai and London, and probably to a lesser extent KEF, as they have only just went daily but they have been a fixture at GLA for sometime now too. Preferably I hope LH wins out against FR if anything is to drop.
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