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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 09:38
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From what I've observed of their operations at Cardiff each based aircraft tends to average 4 departures a day Monday to Friday and 3 on Saturday and Sunday. It looks like each aircraft has 2 crews assigned to it everyday. 1 for the morning and 1 for the evening. Whether that's typical for Flybe operations or unique to Cardiff i don't know.

I believe that Flybe keep 4 Q400s and an e jet on the ground every day as fleet backup .
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 09:41
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
I heard that Flybe people believe in keeping the utilisation low because they are a 'different' type of airline!
whats the famous saying that planes donít make money sitting on the ground?

Wonder if itís to do with crewing rather than not wanting to send the planes out?

Flybe could easily mirror the success of Jet2 holidays from the regions. Yes may not be as cheap but niche city breaks etc could work plus they have a few sun routes and could fit a few others in inbetween flights Iím sure.

theyve signed up with TUI on a few routes from CWL such as VRN and the Ski routes why not tie in with a hotel provider?
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 10:22
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BA Cityflier have abandoned the weekend regional bucket and spade routes for summer 2019 so they can't have been working too well.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 10:43
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Originally Posted by Jamesair View Post
BA Cityflier have abandoned the weekend regional bucket and spade routes for summer 2019 so they can't have been working too well.
Yet Flybe's regional sun routes seem to do ok.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 10:52
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It all depends on the level of competition they face on the sun routes. It would be a bloodbath at GLA because there's another 4-5 operators on services like Alicante, whilst they have a near monopoly at airports like CWL, SOU and EXT on many of those sun routes.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 11:08
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Yet Flybe's regional sun routes seem to do ok.
BE have toyed with regional sun routes many times over the years. SOU and EXT have seen ups and downs. I would've thought if they can get bums on seats that the E195 would be better on these routes than the E175. 120 seats vs 88 seats. (Not taking into account the lease costs of E195). Eventually at the majority of their Airports the likes of EZY/FR will come in and kill the route for BE. They would be better off looking at more niche sun routes that doesn't have as much competition.

There's apparently a number of different reasons why BA dropped the regional flying. The operation was a mess with strange timings, crewing and other operational issues that on the face of it appear to have been poorly managed by them.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 11:14
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Originally Posted by Jamesair View Post
BA Cityflier have abandoned the weekend regional bucket and spade routes for summer 2019 so they can't have been working too well.
Strange as when I looked af BA.COM a couple of days ago there was still a weekend schedule bookable from Manchester between Friday and Sunday in August. AGP, IBZ, PMI, NCE & FLR are all showing.

Could this be the final proof that manchester is no longer classified as a Regional Airport?
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 11:16
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Using SEN as an example, what is the furthest destinations an E JET could get to that is not being serviced by an other carrier (beach / ski)?
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 11:45
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Anyone know when June 2019 onwards will go on sale

They have dates and times now but prices are STUPID !? £300 one way to Glasgow from Birmingham and Manchester ................

I need to book 1x flight and change an existing booking
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 11:56
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I don't think BA Cityflyer have abandoned the bucket and spade routes, but rather rationalised them after this's years experience.
Most of the BA E jets are doing 6 rotations a day- whereas many of the Flybe ones are doing two.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 12:07
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Originally Posted by ib26uk View Post
Anyone know when June 2019 onwards will go on sale

They have dates and times now but prices are STUPID !? £300 one way to Glasgow from Birmingham and Manchester ................

I need to book 1x flight and change an existing booking
Was expected to be sometime this week... not sure if anything's changed however.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 12:49
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1. The trains are ludicrously expensive these days and you're lucky if you get a seat unless you book first class or super early.

2. Flybe operate largely a monopoly from a lot of their bases.

Given these two points how can they still be loss making?
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 13:06
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If the trains are ludicrously expensive, why are they so full that you can't get a seat?
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 13:28
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Trains are generally not ludicrously expensive if booked in advance. Passengers expect still to pretty much turn up and travel on trains as they have been used to whereas they expect to book in advance for air travel.

For example recently traveled Milton Keynes Glasgow return with one large bag booked one week ahead (£84). Point to point neither LTN (Easy) or Flybe (BHX) were competitive on time or fares.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 13:34
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Precisely. And when the media compare train and plane prices they always compare the full fare, turn up and go, refundable, train price and the the advance, inflexible, non-refundable plane ticket.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 14:48
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Originally Posted by Nakata77 View Post
1. The trains are ludicrously expensive these days and you're lucky if you get a seat unless you book first class or super early.

2. Flybe operate largely a monopoly from a lot of their bases.

Given these two points how can they still be loss making?
I guess it depends on what you define as super early and 'ludicrously expensive'. Most train companies don't release trains for sale more than 12 weeks in advance, with promotional fares being more like 8-10 weeks in advance, I agree the experience on CrossCounty isn't great.

MAN-SOU on the 13th of December, returning on the 14th, flyBe is about £115 return, the train 227.00 (cheaper fares are available at different times, the cheapest trains are ~£115). The flight takes an hour, plus commute to/from airports, the train 4h15m for the direct options. I don't think there is much in it from a time or convenience point of view - these will vary depending on actual endpoints. It is interesting that one of the poorer intercity train companies can command a higher fare relative to air travel.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 15:25
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Are both of these prices for open, flexible tickets? If your meeting finished early, or you had to stay an additional xtra night, what would it cost to rebook?
I agree that SOU is awkward to get to, either slow, quite frequent, but direct, or, usually quicker via London but needing to change stations. There's a reason why SOU is central to the Flybe network.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 16:42
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Oh dear the share price 12.70p
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 16:43
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Oh dear the share price 12.70p
....give me 11.50p and I might be tempted to buy!!
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 19:30
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....give me 11.50p and I might be tempted to buy!!
You'd be wasting your money !
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