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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 21:24
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i'm surprised they don't attempt a single daily LCY GCI service ; might make more sense
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 22:01
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount
i'm surprised they don't attempt a single daily LCY GCI service ; might make more sense
BBC News - Flybe Guernsey-Heathrow link cancelled
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur...rnsey-51228034

Looks like the new owners of Flybe have decided the Heathrow slot will be better served by Virgin Atlantic? Moving the flight to Southend doesn't help people looking to get on to onwards international flights.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 22:10
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Originally Posted by asdf1234
BBC News - Flybe Guernsey-Heathrow link cancelled
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-eur...rnsey-51228034

Looks like the new owners of Flybe have decided the Heathrow slot will be better served by Virgin Atlantic? Moving the flight to Southend doesn't help people looking to get on to onwards international flights.
That was always the case & was pointed out in this forum before BEE started the Heathrow to Guernsey route last year. BEE were only ever "slot sitting" for DAL/VIR - until such time as they found a better use for it. It was also pointed out to the States of Guernsey, who were also well aware of the reality; but chose to publicise the route as something of a coup for them. That's politics; you can fool some of the people all of the time etc. Seems that the Southend service may not be all that it is cracked up to be, either.

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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 22:59
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Who cracked the service to SEN to be a serious competitor to anybody?

As others have indicated, a summer service to Guernsey - maybe 2/3/4 times a week may be sustainable. Nobody is suggesting that SEN can replace LHR, even if the subsidy was doubled.
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Old 23rd Jan 2020, 23:13
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Who cracked the service to SEN to be a serious competitor to anybody?

As others have indicated, a summer service to Guernsey - maybe 2/3/4 times a week may be sustainable. Nobody is suggesting that SEN can replace LHR, even if the subsidy was doubled.
I am simply suggesting that Heathrow to Guernsey was something of a con trick , & that the Southend service is , perhaps, designed as a smoke screen to fool those who might be expecting something more than is going to be delivered.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 21:10
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Flybe owners requesting £100m short term loan from Government on "commercial terms"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51244308
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 21:28
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So what happens if they default? Will the government bring Flybe down?
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 22:00
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Tomorrow’s Times “Flybe will tell the government that it needs a £100 million loan to survive the winter, on top of the £106 million tax bill deferrment it has received”

So, thinking about it....they need a £100 million loan in order to get through the next 9 weeks !
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 22:00
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So if they want a loan on “commercial terms” why not go to the Banks?

is it because they won’t lend to them?




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Flybe owners requesting £100m short term loan from Government on "commercial terms"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51244308
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 22:04
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You have to expect that the government will tell them to go whistle. If they need money then Cyrus and the grinning jumper should be funding it! I can't believe this is even under consideration.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 23:22
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Eastern Airways

Reading between the lines today with the new routes announced by Eastern Airways are they cutting ties with Flybe and going it alone once again ?
cant find an articles to say the new flights can be booked through Flybe. All just commenting that they will on sale on eastern website and no comment from Flybe at it all?
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 23:28
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Eastern is more of a basket case than flybe in my opinion


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Old 24th Jan 2020, 23:38
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS
Reading between the lines today with the new routes announced by Eastern Airways are they cutting ties with Flybe and going it alone once again ?
cant find an articles to say the new flights can be booked through Flybe. All just commenting that they will on sale on eastern website and no comment from Flybe at it all?
the eastern website doesnt have a reservation engine. it redirects to flybe
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 15:48
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It was reported on this site in the weeks prior to the well publicised near collapse that the airline had commenced a head count reduction at HQ in Exeter.

Does anybody know where this exercise is at?
How many are to go? How will they fund the redundancy cost? I'm imagining that there are long standing employees who might well be entitled to apply a severance package.?

Anybody on here close to that process?
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 17:54
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD
It was reported on this site in the weeks prior to the well publicised near collapse that the airline had commenced a head count reduction at HQ in Exeter.

Does anybody know where this exercise is at?
How many are to go? How will they fund the redundancy cost? I'm imagining that there are long standing employees who might well be entitled to apply a severance package.?

Anybody on here close to that process?

Unless you have defined in your contract specific redundancy terms or agree voluntary terms the English statutory redundancy terms apply.

They are rather less generous than most expect .

In simple terms first two years - Nil other than accrued holiday pay

The for complete years worked up to your 22nd birthday half weeks pay for each year service.
22 -40 one weeks pay for for each completed years service
Over 40 1½ weeks pay for each completed years service
Cap out at a maximum of 20 years service and cap of weekly pay £525 per week maximum

Maximum payment can not exceed £15,750




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Old 26th Jan 2020, 15:27
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https://www.cityam.com/flybe-looks-f...saves-airline/




Surely a cash for taking flybe into public ownership given it is vital for the UK economy .
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Old 26th Jan 2020, 19:04
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Can FlyBe survive? As pointed out earlier, Connect have barely touched their network in the last year.

The Telegraph is going after them all guns blazing. Mind you, BA advertise with them and that paper tries to be sympathetic to advertisers!
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 19:32
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Originally Posted by SealinkBF
Can FlyBe survive? As pointed out earlier, Connect have barely touched their network in the last year.

The Telegraph is going after them all guns blazing. Mind you, BA advertise with them and that paper tries to be sympathetic to advertisers!

https://www.ft.com/content/c87a967a-...7-eae9bd51ceba

This is why flybe needs to
be in public ownership
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 19:51
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Originally Posted by Brigantee
https://www.ft.com/content/c87a967a-...7-eae9bd51ceba

This is why flybe needs to
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Sorry FT links do not work as cannot be read unless one subscribes to the paper - can you elaborate please?
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Old 27th Jan 2020, 19:51
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cant find an articles to say the new flights can be booked through Flybe. All just commenting that they will on sale on eastern website and no comment from Flybe at it all?
Just lazy journalism, not looking through the smoke and mirrors as the Mayor and Eastern try and avoid the damaged Flybe brand. However, the Eastern website directs you to the Flybe booking engine and Eastern's own press release says

A network of Flybe franchise routes linking Teesside International Airport with the length and breadth of the UK and Ireland, including London and Dublin, have today been announced.

Roger Hage, Eastern Airways’ General Manager Commercial & Operations, said: “This is a significant strategic partnership for both the airline and airport to develop the number of destinations available from Teesside Airport. The mix of business and leisure travellers in the region will benefit from this major expansion of three based aircraft operating a broad Teesside network of Flybe routes operated by Eastern Airways, including a number of onward connections in the wider flybe network.”



https://www.easternairways.com/news/...-international
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