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Old 15th Jul 2020, 12:27
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With three E190's coming in I assume they have something lined up for them. It'd be an odd time to be adding 100-seat jets to a fleet that has been restricted small aircraft dedicated to regional flying. It will be interesting to see what.
Maybe restarting the SOU Sun routes left by BE? always popular
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 19:31
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Originally Posted by The Nutts Mutts
It's a fair point... compare Eastern's brand with what Blue Islands have done to relaunch themselves. With BI and Loganair now entering into a codeshare, you've got a combination of two different and distinct brands, each with a strong and obvious home market.
In contrast Eastern have a mishmash of aircraft types, many aircraft unpainted, probably fairly low brand awareness amongst the general public, and quick expansion into lots of previously unserved airports. I really hope they make it work, but right now the BI/Loganair combo looks like the slicker and more recognisable operation in marketing terms.

Find me 10 people outside of ABZ and SOU that know Eastern even exist...


I'm being slightly facetious, but by far the vast majority of the public don't know they exist.
Even a lot of my UK colleagues, (and I'm based in the south of the UK for a well-known airline), do not know Eastern exists.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 19:46
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How many know Loganair or Blue Island exist?
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 20:05
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
How many know Loganair or Blue Island exist?
Google where you want to fly from and to......
If easy or Ryan don't do it then you go with who does.
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Old 15th Jul 2020, 20:33
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With three E190's coming in
Beyond the initial press statement several months ago, is there actually any proof that these 190s are still coming? I certainly haven't seen any sign to suggest they are, but that's not to say I've been watching that closely!

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Old 15th Jul 2020, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Albert Hall
Beyond the initial press statement several months ago, is there actually any proof that these 190s are still coming? I certainly haven't seen any sign to suggest they are, but that's not to say I've been watching that closely!
Air Moldova 190 ER-ECC routed Chisinau-Humberside-East Midlands yesterday reportedly on delivery and for painting.
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I suspect that these leases were signed before covid came along and now they are committed to them. Quite what there going to do with a small fleet of 170/190s along with the 145s they’ve still got is beyond me.

The last time the 170s were at the company, it was just a money pit with them sat around most of the time doing nothing with crew/ contractors being paid daily rate sat around in hotels. I suspect this venture won’t be too much different other than the crew will probably be on salary.

wont be long before even more of the boss’s money needs to get pumped in to keep things afloat. Any other company would have been gone years ago.
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I suspect that these leases were signed before covid came along and now they are committed to them. Quite what there going to do with a small fleet of 170/190s along with the 145s theyíve still got is beyond me.

The last time the 170s were at the company, it was just a money pit with them sat around most of the time doing nothing with crew/ contractors being paid daily rate sat around in hotels. I suspect this venture wonít be too much different other than the crew will probably be on salary.

wont be long before even more of the bossís money needs to get pumped in to keep things afloat. Any other company would have been gone years ago.
They could utilise the E90 at SOU on the old BE sun routes. W20 to ALC & AGP would work!
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Old 16th Jul 2020, 08:49
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Originally Posted by stewyb
They could utilise the E90 at SOU on the old BE sun routes. W20 to ALC & AGP would work!
Think BHD-MAN-BHX-LGW might be announced soon.
That would suit ?
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Old 16th Jul 2020, 10:06
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Thats a lot of stops just to get to LGW. Doubt many would go for that.
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Old 16th Jul 2020, 16:45
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Great Dane have some pretty long E jet routes. I wonder if T3 would be interested in establishing them at MME? I could certainly see LCY and DUB, possibly BHD going E190 and bringing fares down. They have the legs for the Canaries, Tunisia, Greece, Turkey and Cyprus out of Chubby Brown Intl. So if they're big and brave and sign on with a travel agent to assist sales it could just pay off for them.

I'd suggest they might need a larger fleet to commit to SOU, but it would be great to see it come back to life, as well as the other airports that died with Flybe.

Now is not the time, but if Eastern, Logan, Aurigny, Stobart and Blue Islands play their cards right and carve their niches, once covid-19 is no longer a consideration there might be a platform for regional growth.
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Old 16th Jul 2020, 18:40
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
I suspect that these leases were signed before covid came along and now they are committed to them. Quite what there going to do with a small fleet of 170/190s along with the 145s theyíve still got is beyond me.

The last time the 170s were at the company, it was just a money pit with them sat around most of the time doing nothing with crew/ contractors being paid daily rate sat around in hotels. I suspect this venture wonít be too much different other than the crew will probably be on salary.

wont be long before even more of the bossís money needs to get pumped in to keep things afloat. Any other company would have been gone years ago.
Agreed, very odd move. Itís not a good plane for Sun routes, itís too small. I suspect this is linked to that lunatic mayor at Teeside who somehow has a pot of money to blow on making Teeside a viable airport, which is never going to happen. Didnít someone mention that he wanted sun routes to be introduced? I suspect he is bankrolling this jet.
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Old 16th Jul 2020, 19:58
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RJ - if you're going to insult the man, you could at least do him the courtesy of spelling the area he represents correctly.
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Old 17th Jul 2020, 07:56
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Despite all of the expansion, Eastern only appear to be recruiting at CWL. Is the page out of date? CWL recruitment was also happening back in Feb/Mar before the pandemic. Given that they appear to have cut MME-CWL, there's only the twice daily CWL-VLY route from CWL which shouldn't be too difficult to recruit 1 or 2 cabin crew for.

https://www.easternairways.com/careers/cabin-crew
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Old 17th Jul 2020, 11:22
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Could Eastern being using E190's to replace Flybe at CWL?? If the assembly still got money to spend??
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 15:31
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Heard no more on the 6 new routes that they were going to reveal once out of lockdown (plus SOU-DUB which has been announced). Is it likely they were also pitching for the 6 at BHD that Aer Lingus Regional eventually won?
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 15:35
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I had forgotten about them. Not all BE routes ex BHD have been filled.
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 15:39
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
I had forgotten about them. Not all BE routes ex BHD have been filled.
thanks, just seems coincidental!
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 15:56
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Originally Posted by SKOJB
Heard no more on the 6 new routes that they were going to reveal once out of lockdown (plus SOU-DUB which has been announced). Is it likely they were also pitching for the 6 at BHD that Aer Lingus Regional eventually won?
Eastern now have 4 ATR72s at Southampton. There are gaps in the middle of the day should they want to increase frequency or add more routes. No aircraft based at Belfast City (BHD) at present, but they may have been waiting for Stobart Air to announce before doing so.

Looking at the schedules, the following aircraft seem to be based:
Cardiff - 1x J41
Humberside - 1x J41
Leeds/Bradford - 1x J41
Southampton - 4x ATR72
Teesside - 1x E190, 2x J41, 1x S2000

That leaves the 2x E145 new (3x) Embraer (170/190) aircraft, 2x ATR72 and 1x J41 unaccounted for. This would either be new bases or grow Southampton for European flights.

Regarding the new routes, there was SOU-DUB but also LBA-NQY and MME-NQY added. Meanwhile, ABZ base closed (along with ABZ-NCL and ABZ-WIC) whilst MME-CWL remains off-sale for the foreseeable.
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Old 28th Jul 2020, 16:02
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Where are the other ATR's coming from - they only have two at present? What does the E190 at MME do? aren't the E145's up for sale??
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