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Old 13th Nov 2018, 20:19
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Not many in the pension scheme now..and those that are left have been given pay rises to compensate...Figures on the up..KLM ,anyway,more freight flights..ok less movements..corner turned? Will PEEL decide to give it another year,while the mayor sorts his priorities out...watch this space!..As always s..interesting times!
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 00:03
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I'm only seeing the accounts dated to 31st March 2017, where are 2018s please or am I just being thick?
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 10:49
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I'm only seeing the accounts dated to 31st March 2017, where are 2018s please or am I just being thick?
Correct about March 2017, the next accounts are due in December 2018, which will be for the period up to March 2018.
I noted that there are 71 DTVA employees listed in the last accounts. Does anyone know how many there were in 2004-05 when passenger figures were growing?

Re the last accounts, I am not an accountant but there appears to be large amounts of money being paid out to other companies?
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 14:27
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Airport discussed by MP's

Airport debated by MP’s. Peel say they have invested £40m.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...alley-15414343

More on the debate.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...e-ssi-15413499Ben Houchen on the airport

Mr Houchen has pledged to buy back Durham Tees Valley Airport - or Teesside Airport, as he calls it.
He was criticised in the debate over lack of transparency and progress over his attempts to do a deal. He responded by saying:

Almost 15 years since Labour flogged our airport for just £500,000, I’m pleased that MPs are now finally awake to the fact that Teesside Airport could close – something I’ve been saying for two years.
I’m clear that the only way to save our airport from closure is to bring it back under public ownership. I’ve been clear that I won’t give money to Peel for nothing in return.

I’ll soon be presenting my plan to save our airport very soon for Cabinet approval. My plan will be public, voted on, and won’t require a single penny from local council tax payers. We also have an established UK airport operator willing to step in if we reach a deal.
MP fears airport could close in 2021

Alex Cunningham also raises the issue of Durham Tees Valley Airport. He says he is concerned the airport will close unless Tees mayor Ben Houchen can deliver.
He says
Those plans to develop the airport are shrouded in secrecy. The parties involved are bound by confidentiality agreements.
And those of us who are asking questions on behalf of the people we represent are getting very limited answers.

We know some things though. That the £5m grant to create an access road to the south side of the airport to allow further development has been allowed to lapse. Why?


Mr Cunningham says a reply to his letter from Peel Group, which owns 90% of the airport, says the company has invested £40m in the loss-making airport.

He doesn’t actually confirm the airport will close in 2021 when the current arrangements run out but I fear that is exactly what is on the cards, if the mayor fails to sort this out
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 15:03
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Could this be classed as fake news Mr Cunningham should no better or prove it.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 15:20
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Could this be classed as fake news Mr Cunningham should no better or prove it.
I thought it was in the public domaion that Peel had an option to close the airport if it continued to lose money. This is certainly what the Mayor has been saying - the article linkied by Beefer has Mr Houchen saying the following (amongst other things)

"Iím pleased that MPs are now finally awake to the fact that Teesside Airport could close Ė something Iíve been saying for two years."
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Prove it as, show the letter from Mr Hough.
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Old 15th Nov 2018, 18:02
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So..as previously reported....possible closure in 2021 if DTV remains under PEELS umbrella.

could be true..who knows....however...what message is this sending out to customers and airlines...

can they plan..which they do...ie. TUI etc.ahead if there is a possibility of closure?

its not good and no one can argue any other way.I suspect most major players plan at least a couple of years in advance...KLM definitely..Eastern..maybe not!

Bad press sticks..or is it fake news!

what next guys..Nero is fiddling...
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Old 16th Nov 2018, 14:56
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AMS

Over 10k people used the AMS service in September. Is this a record?

Certainly the increase this year has been excellent!
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Old 16th Nov 2018, 15:31
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Doubt it's a record, we used to sustain 3xd if not 4xd all F100 service
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Old 16th Nov 2018, 19:19
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RR. Is right..much better once upon a time.

rough work out is 160 flights...10k passengers. Makes an average of 62 pax per flight.. all flights 2/3rds full....I know it’s a rough working out and of course no idea of yields.


back to the big question..the future..come on guys..a bit like Brexit..but what do we think?


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Old 16th Nov 2018, 22:35
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10,297 used the AMS service in September, this was the best month on the route since September 2008 when 10,589 passengers flew it. Based on 3 rows of business class (so 6 vacant seats), I would put the load factor at 72% last month.

So far this year, the route is 12% up on 2017 - this is despite the summer schedule being cut back due to slot restrictions at AMS when maintenance work was being done on the runway. 2018 should be the best numbers on this route since 2008.

As HWU said, we don't know the yield (and of course KLM are running bigger planes than 12 months ago so might have dropped prices slightly) but KLM do still charge a significant premium to fly from MME over NCL or LBA, especially on connecting flights.
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 07:56
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The weekend flights that I have seen have been added to with weekend trippers to Amsterdam so not just business and transit passengers. Highwideandugly banned but Beafer escapes.
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 11:19
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DTV news. The Army will be arriving on an exercise.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...-army-15428212
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 11:52
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And the RAF transport A330 Voyager has been in a few times so not dead yet. Jet Provost also likes its new home.
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 17:54
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Highwideandugly - Banned?? Whats that all about?? Only one who talks sense on here at times!!
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Old 17th Nov 2018, 18:25
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Highwideandugly - Banned?? Whats that all about?? Only one who talks sense on here at times!!
I think you need to reassess your definition of sense!! But yes a strange ban and presumably nothing he's said on this particular thread
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Old 18th Nov 2018, 22:23
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KLM - where is DTV Airport?

KLM confusion as to where DTV is? First the was a Newcastle photo, now its one of Durham?
Maybe Peels Robert could give them a local photo

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/t...-land-15432241

Anyone got a suggestion for KLM?
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A slow news day clearly and a non story! Does it matter?? No. I'm slightly surprised KLM lowered themselves to responding
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Would think KLM know where they are going..and I would hope passengers know where they are going...no story!
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