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Old 14th Jun 2018, 15:58
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The antagonists over at STA have finally gotten their hands on the original 2003 sale agreement, I haven't read their full post but the jist seems to be that it doesn't teach them anything they didn't already know and true to their style they're exaggerating the negativity of it
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The antagonists over at STA have finally gotten their hands on the original 2003 sale agreement, I haven't read their full post but the jist seems to be that it doesn't teach them anything they didn't already know and true to their style they're exaggerating the negativity of it
I agree - not much we didn't know. I've always been a bit baffled about the "valuable land" argument. Much of it will be contaminated and it will have a cost to turn into something useful, and before you do that you need to get change of use and planning permission.
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Good précis though and refresher?

place your bets...mayor or peel or or?

still desperately quiet..as bad as last 15 years..something has to change?
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Good précis though and refresher?
But where's the smoking gun that was being looked for?
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Old 15th Jun 2018, 13:15
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There isn't one, and once again it should be stressed that any barren spell is not down to the actions of Peel.

Looks like today might be the start of housing...diggers moved in and even the bomb squad are on site "just checking".
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Pie in the sky but worth a post. Easyjet want a Heathrow base with us as a destination...

easyJet reveals routes for potential Heathrow base at anna.aero-RABA HubLab conference; 18 domestic destinations identified
Now this would be interesting, and may even offer up some kind of competition to BA at LBA/NCL. easyJet could certainly make it work, as their fares are generally pretty good and thus would attract a wider audience.
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 15:42
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Now this would be interesting, and may even offer up some kind of competition to BA at LBA/NCL. easyJet could certainly make it work, as their fares are generally pretty good and thus would attract a wider audience.
Assuming a double daily MME-LHR with a based A319, is it really realistic for Easyjet to sell 300 seats a day each way on this route?
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Originally Posted by tigertanaka
Assuming a double daily MME-LHR with a based A319, is it really realistic for Easyjet to sell 300 seats a day each way on this route?
Won't the A319s be phased out by then? It'd be A320 surely?
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Old 16th Jun 2018, 15:57
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Won't EZY be flying there green Eco-plane by then?
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Won't the A319s be phased out by then? It'd be A320 surely?
The A319s are not going completely, some were bought by Allegiant Air and then leased back a few years ago until now. Yes there is multiple leaving but they are not on the way "out" as per say. It's more just fleet optimisation.
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Old 17th Jun 2018, 09:07
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Assuming a double daily MME-LHR with a based A319, is it really realistic for Easyjet to sell 300 seats a day each way on this route?
As long as the fares were on a par with the train fare to Heathrow, then why not. More passengers are using Heathrow as a hub for connecting flights, not just business but leisure as well.
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Bare in mind the destinations suggested from LHR are theoretical, and the vast majority of them unrealistic. Why choose MME when you have a base in NCL, why PIK over GLA, who the hell would fly CWL-LHR for example??
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Old 17th Jun 2018, 10:03
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Actually hypothetically if slots were plentiful you could see the likes of BRS/CWL/NWI to LHR. Very short routes exist at other hub airports for feed eg BRU-AMS, NAP/PIS-FCO, DUS-FRA. Even more so in the USA.
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Old 17th Jun 2018, 11:09
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If's, but's and maybe's.
If the runway gets built, if Easy move to LHR, if they operate domestic flights to none base UK destinations...
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Out of curiosity but seeing how easyJet don't pay any fees at Southend and they are about to have Ryanair as competition next year, it begs the question why for now they are not offering all these airports a service to Southend .
After all doesn't the new Crossrail link to Liverpool Street or close enough., Public transport in the capital by year's end is going to be pretty good.
It would prove if nothing else demand for London services , ok it's not direct but Crossrail had the Heathrow link, if they could work with the TFL or whomever operates Crossrail then perhaps some kind of through the ticketing as far as Heathrow.
Trouble is EZY are not linked unlike Flybe to the bigger carriers , so the onus is on the passenger to grab bags and hot foot it to wherever the connection is .
Time had come for them to join the club and be a star alliance member .
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Pie in the sky but worth a post. Easyjet want a Heathrow base with us as a destination...

easyJet reveals routes for potential Heathrow base at anna.aero-RABA HubLab conference; 18 domestic destinations identified
Not necessaily, MME is on BE's list as well. Who knows, maybe BD regional will be back. Third rwy changes everything, it's also a long way off. Everything will be different then.



Now this would be interesting, and may even offer up some kind of competition to BA at LBA/NCL. easyJet could certainly make it work, as their fares are generally pretty good and thus would attract a wider audience.
Indeed!



As long as the fares were on a par with the train fare to Heathrow, then why not. More passengers are using Heathrow as a hub for connecting flights, not just business but leisure as well.
What train to Heathrow? Trains do not run from the north to Heathrow, and never will, despite the fact that the reopening and upgrading of just 4 miles of track could make it possible.

Thr truth is that a MME-LHR link will be the making of the airport.

Bare in mind the destinations suggested from LHR are theoretical, and the vast majority of them unrealistic. Why choose MME when you have a base in NCL, why PIK over GLA, who the hell would fly CWL-LHR for example??
Who knows what will be viable several years hence? Clearly it isn't feasible now, but carriers are looking at the possibilities and they must have good commercial reasons for doing so.

Actually hypothetically if slots were plentiful you could see the likes of BRS/CWL/NWI to LHR. Very short routes exist at other hub airports for feed eg BRU-AMS, NAP/PIS-FCO, DUS-FRA. Even more so in the USA.
Of course the roads are ever more congested, gridlocked, and journey times cannot be guaranteed, the railways are over crowded, expensive, riddled with delays cancellations and strikes, and journey times cannot also be guaranteed. It's entirely possible that air may provide the remedy for many...........don't discount it yet!




Out of curiosity but seeing how easyJet don't pay any fees at Southend and they are about to have Ryanair as competition next year, it begs the question why for now they are not offering all these airports a service to Southend .
After all doesn't the new Crossrail link to Liverpool Street or close enough., Public transport in the capital by year's end is going to be pretty good.
It would prove if nothing else demand for London services , ok it's not direct but Crossrail had the Heathrow link, if they could work with the TFL or whomever operates Crossrail then perhaps some kind of through the ticketing as far as Heathrow.
Trouble is EZY are not linked unlike Flybe to the bigger carriers , so the onus is on the passenger to grab bags and hot foot it to wherever the connection is .
Time had come for them to join the club and be a star alliance member
For some unknown reason crossrail isn't going to Southend! The tracks are electrified, the infrastructure is there and the route is an extension of the line to/from Shenfield. The line is also a major commuter area, so who knows why? This means that Soutend airport will not be on crossrail. Apologies for the thread drift.
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Old 21st Jun 2018, 12:37
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Question Stop me if you’ve heard it somewhere else..

Really interesting update on the Prestwick thread re their future.


Its so sad to see a once great airport on its knees and with huge debt.Surrounded by sea on one side and two pretty successful airports to the north/east.
only half a million passengers per year..falling cargo flights and movements.
The possibility of it all being sold for housing developments..in a nutshell unloved and unwanted by the vast majority..
Pinning hopes on a service to London 15 years ahead..

Local pEople who care trying their best but probably treading water....
All sounds very familiar?

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Plenty of radio adverts for the Balkan Holidays next year, shame the likes of TUI and Thomas Cook are not there as well.
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That's the meddling Mayors fault.

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Old 24th Jun 2018, 07:42
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That's the meddling Mayors fault.
I thought it was Peel that cancelled the TUI contract?
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