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TUI and Thomson before that hasn't used the BY flight code for several years they use TOM.
TUI don't add their flight code to outsourced flying as both Flybe and Volotea use their own codes regardless of the fact that they are operating on behalf of TUI.
It's Lolo Flights not Volo! please see below
LoLo flights are using a EMB195 from Flybe for SOU to Skiathos from July to September 2018, it's a charter flight not a 'scheduled' flight, Kalamata was to be added from late September up until the end of the summer season but the flights never went on sale.
There hasn't been anything confirmed relating to the cancellation of the LoLo flight program for summer 2019, I should imagine that their planned frequencies have yet to have aircraft allocated but I have to admit it does sound a bit over ambitious, we're just have to wait and see!
TUI don't add their flight code to outsourced flying as both Flybe and Volotea use their own codes regardless of the fact that they are operating on behalf of TUI.
It's Lolo Flights not Volo! please see below
LoLo flights are using a EMB195 from Flybe for SOU to Skiathos from July to September 2018, it's a charter flight not a 'scheduled' flight, Kalamata was to be added from late September up until the end of the summer season but the flights never went on sale.
There hasn't been anything confirmed relating to the cancellation of the LoLo flight program for summer 2019, I should imagine that their planned frequencies have yet to have aircraft allocated but I have to admit it does sound a bit over ambitious, we're just have to wait and see!
have also seen BY used on FR24 as well on numerous occasions recently
dont ask me how but BY is around lol - maybe used on Posn'g flights?
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indeed
i was chattin about thomson's SOU charters to PMI MAH and IBZ who are still flown by Volotea (Volo)
Lolo (cheap flights) was mentioned in another convo about their rather ambitious charter plans for 2019 - I wish them well
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believe it or not BY was used on the bag tags and boarding cards back from my recent flight
have also seen BY used on FR24 as well on numerous occasions recently
dont ask me how but BY is around lol - maybe used on Posn'g flights?
thomas cook uses both TCX and MT (My Travel days) and also DE for Condor
have also seen BY used on FR24 as well on numerous occasions recently
dont ask me how but BY is around lol - maybe used on Posn'g flights?
thomas cook uses both TCX and MT (My Travel days) and also DE for Condor
TCX/MT & BAW/BA & EZY/U2 & BEE/BE &
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There hasn't been anything confirmed relating to the cancellation of the LoLo flight program for summer 2019, I should imagine that their planned frequencies have yet to have aircraft allocated but I have to admit it does sound a bit over ambitious, we're just have to wait and see!
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Just having a look at the Geneva figures for February and 4512 passengers used the route
Don't have access to the Flybe figures again , but for example take the following
Flybe operated 12 flights at say a load of 65 passengers , leaving Easy jet with 123 passengers
Flybe operated at 75 passengers per flight , leaving Easy jet with 113 passengers a flight all using a A320 180 / 186 seater
See Lo Lo flights are going head to head with Bournemouth and TUI / Ryanair on 3 routes next summer 19 to Kefalonia , Corfu and Murcia
Don't have access to the Flybe figures again , but for example take the following
Flybe operated 12 flights at say a load of 65 passengers , leaving Easy jet with 123 passengers
Flybe operated at 75 passengers per flight , leaving Easy jet with 113 passengers a flight all using a A320 180 / 186 seater
See Lo Lo flights are going head to head with Bournemouth and TUI / Ryanair on 3 routes next summer 19 to Kefalonia , Corfu and Murcia
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Nobody can seriously consider Lolo completing against TUI/Ryanair,its not going to happen!
If the stated figures for Easy from Southampton are accurate,then it's not brilliant news for SOU!
Southampton needs some good news,it's time for the management to step up!.
Nobody can seriously consider Lolo completing against TUI/Ryanair,its not going to happen!
If the stated figures for Easy from Southampton are accurate,then it's not brilliant news for SOU!
Southampton needs some good news,it's time for the management to step up!.
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I don't think the EZY numbers are too bad if the average load is around 123 for a first season. Remember this route only went on sale in July when a lot of passengers would have already booked their flights for this ski winter. A Saturday flight however is a must for next winter due to it being changeover day in the Alps!
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TUI summer 2019
Looking at TUI flights on sale from SOU for summer 19, the programme seems to be as follows:
Tuesday 1x Palma, operated by Volotea
Thursday 1x Ibiza, operated by Volotea
Saturday 1x Mahon, operated by Volotea
Nice to see Mahon returning with increased capacity.
Interestingly, while on their site I noticed that Greece was showing as a destination from SOU for this summer. On selecting it, it seems that they were selling TUI holidays to Skiathos using the Lolo flight on a Tuesday afternoon. In what's hopefully a good sign, all dates are showing as sold out. I wonder how many seats on each aircraft TUI have bought?
Tuesday 1x Palma, operated by Volotea
Thursday 1x Ibiza, operated by Volotea
Saturday 1x Mahon, operated by Volotea
Nice to see Mahon returning with increased capacity.
Interestingly, while on their site I noticed that Greece was showing as a destination from SOU for this summer. On selecting it, it seems that they were selling TUI holidays to Skiathos using the Lolo flight on a Tuesday afternoon. In what's hopefully a good sign, all dates are showing as sold out. I wonder how many seats on each aircraft TUI have bought?
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It's encourageing to see Manon increased capacity 2019,however on the other side of the coin there is no further increases on Palma flights, somewhat surprising considering past capacity on this route.
SOU needs more Sun routes,but where are they going to come from,or rather which airline?
It's encourageing to see Manon increased capacity 2019,however on the other side of the coin there is no further increases on Palma flights, somewhat surprising considering past capacity on this route.
SOU needs more Sun routes,but where are they going to come from,or rather which airline?
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Yes Palma has seen a fairly large decrease year on year since the high point in 2016. On the TUI website there were no options for Flybe flights to Palma in 2019 that I could see, so I wonder if this summer will mark the end of the road for Flybe E195 sun routes.
There's always the hope that EZY might do something in summer 2019, but I really don't want to kick off that particular discussion again as it's been done to death on here!
Maybe Lolo will go for the mass market and swap Pristina for Palma...
There's always the hope that EZY might do something in summer 2019, but I really don't want to kick off that particular discussion again as it's been done to death on here!
Maybe Lolo will go for the mass market and swap Pristina for Palma...
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Surely Lolo would have seen the possible slack in Palma capacity,and dropped some of there more fancible proposed routes for 2019,in favour for certain high pax on the Majorca route.
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Looking at TUI flights on sale from SOU for summer 19, the programme seems to be as follows:
Tuesday 1x Palma, operated by Volotea
Thursday 1x Ibiza, operated by Volotea
Saturday 1x Mahon, operated by Volotea
Nice to see Mahon returning with increased capacity.
Interestingly, while on their site I noticed that Greece was showing as a destination from SOU for this summer. On selecting it, it seems that they were selling TUI holidays to Skiathos using the Lolo flight on a Tuesday afternoon. In what's hopefully a good sign, all dates are showing as sold out. I wonder how many seats on each aircraft TUI have bought?
Tuesday 1x Palma, operated by Volotea
Thursday 1x Ibiza, operated by Volotea
Saturday 1x Mahon, operated by Volotea
Nice to see Mahon returning with increased capacity.
Interestingly, while on their site I noticed that Greece was showing as a destination from SOU for this summer. On selecting it, it seems that they were selling TUI holidays to Skiathos using the Lolo flight on a Tuesday afternoon. In what's hopefully a good sign, all dates are showing as sold out. I wonder how many seats on each aircraft TUI have bought?
Maybe i'm not looking correctly but note the following on the TUI website:
PMI is x 2 weekly for S19 (as per this year) with Volotea
I can't see Mahon as being operated by Volotea, in fact I cannot see any flight prices yet!
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According to their website, when searching for holidays for summer 19, the schedule is actually as follows for May-Sept:
Ibiza 1 weekly on Thursday (Volotea)
Mahon 1 weekly on Saturday (Flybe)
Palma 2 weekly on Tuesday, Saturday (Volotea)
I saw the Saturday Volotea and got mixed up thinking it was the Mahon flight.
Thomas Cook also showing 2x weekly Palma on Flybe for S19, guessing that will be a Dash 8.
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Regarding TUI selling Skiathos it’s been on there website since LoLo flights first announced the flights but has always been Sold Out as they never actually took any seats off the company, just a gremlin in the system
Never mind , Lo Lo have 196 flights on offer next summer potentially on a FK 70 aircraft with i am guessing about 15 , 000 seats extra so should bump up numbers
Never mind , Lo Lo have 196 flights on offer next summer potentially on a FK 70 aircraft with i am guessing about 15 , 000 seats extra so should bump up numbers
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Regarding TUI selling Skiathos it’s been on there website since LoLo flights first announced the flights but has always been Sold Out as they never actually took any seats off the company, just a gremlin in the system
Never mind , Lo Lo have 196 flights on offer next summer potentially on a FK 70 aircraft with i am guessing about 15 , 000 seats extra so should bump up numbers
Never mind , Lo Lo have 196 flights on offer next summer potentially on a FK 70 aircraft with i am guessing about 15 , 000 seats extra so should bump up numbers
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I would think the airport are treading carefully and making sure they don't 'do a Powdair' and go along with all the marketing promotions, not forgetting the fancy launch event at that new Hotel in Ocean Village, all the while the company hadn't even sorted out an aircraft to operate for them!
Hopefully once it is all finalised and signed for (some searching about suggests to me it will most likely be Tus Airways) we will start to see Lolo promoted more widely.
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Sounds promising so far.
I would think the airport are treading carefully and making sure they don't 'do a Powdair' and go along with all the marketing promotions, not forgetting the fancy launch event at that new Hotel in Ocean Village, all the while the company hadn't even sorted out an aircraft to operate for them!
Hopefully once it is all finalised and signed for (some searching about suggests to me it will most likely be Tus Airways) we will start to see Lolo promoted more widely.
I would think the airport are treading carefully and making sure they don't 'do a Powdair' and go along with all the marketing promotions, not forgetting the fancy launch event at that new Hotel in Ocean Village, all the while the company hadn't even sorted out an aircraft to operate for them!
Hopefully once it is all finalised and signed for (some searching about suggests to me it will most likely be Tus Airways) we will start to see Lolo promoted more widely.
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Couldn’t agree with you more Rivet Joint
Looking at Bristol and it’s catchment area I cannot understand why SOU continues to underperform - it had forecast up to 6m pax by 2030. It should be at least 4m by now.
British Airways CityFlyer would be a perfect match - is the airport even talking to them?
Given Flybe’s financial Performace I’d be worried if I was SOU.
I also don’t understand why KLM doesn’t offer more frequency. How can it be offering four daily flights from the likes to Durham and Norwich but not SOU?
Looking at Bristol and it’s catchment area I cannot understand why SOU continues to underperform - it had forecast up to 6m pax by 2030. It should be at least 4m by now.
British Airways CityFlyer would be a perfect match - is the airport even talking to them?
Given Flybe’s financial Performace I’d be worried if I was SOU.
I also don’t understand why KLM doesn’t offer more frequency. How can it be offering four daily flights from the likes to Durham and Norwich but not SOU?
I also don’t understand why KLM doesn’t offer more frequency. How can it be offering four daily flights from the likes to Durham and Norwich but not SOU?
thing is Lolo is not an airline - they are a tour operator
so they can advertise to sell seats now if they wish - up to them who they then contract/sub the flight series to - could be all given to Flybe or Eastern if they so wish to pay them to do it - or even BA!
at the end of the day I wish them well for their very ambitious plans for summer 2019 - a series of flights and destinations that Bath Travel Palmair could only envy
will it happen? Hmmm well this is place to be and see !
volotea tried with SOU and SEN but it lasted only a year for a scheduled services - only package holiday charter flights seem to work sold via a major Tour Op.
so they can advertise to sell seats now if they wish - up to them who they then contract/sub the flight series to - could be all given to Flybe or Eastern if they so wish to pay them to do it - or even BA!
at the end of the day I wish them well for their very ambitious plans for summer 2019 - a series of flights and destinations that Bath Travel Palmair could only envy
will it happen? Hmmm well this is place to be and see !
volotea tried with SOU and SEN but it lasted only a year for a scheduled services - only package holiday charter flights seem to work sold via a major Tour Op.