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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:18
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For the first time in a long time there are more flights at BOH than there are at SOU today

Pretty sure it will be short lived with attractive core routes just waiting to be filled Once COVID-19 is out of the way
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:22
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Good Luck

Very tough day for all those at Flybe and Southampton. I wish the staff all the very best and hope they can find future employment fairly easily (in spite of it being a nasty time for the industry). Had some good flights with them over the years.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:22
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Ideally now or as soon as possible is the best time to get the extension done to try and attract someone in. It’s going to cause the least disruption too
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:41
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For the first time in a long time there are more flights at BOH than there are at SOU today
Is that right? 6 departures from BOH, seem to be more than that from SOU - SI, GR, T3, EZS?
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:57
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
Is that right? 6 departures from BOH, seem to be more than that from SOU - SI, GR, T3, EZS?
13 from SOU 7 from BOH
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 06:59
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seem to be more than that from SOU - SI, GR, T3, EZS
Indeed, that must be around 14-15 deps all told. Some people way too quick to hit the inappropriate gloat button :-(
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:06
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Why the SOU v BOH willy waving? LOL

Not that long ago BOH had only a few flights a week!

Sorry to see Flybe go but I reckon others will step in PDQ to take on some flights....
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:12
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Yes I forgot about Eastern to LBA (3 daily?) and the Blue Islands GCI flights

LBA 3 daily
JER 3 daily
GCI 6 daily
ACI 2 daily

Roughly 1,800 seats perhaps 1,160 passengers for today
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:20
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
Yes I forgot about Eastern to LBA (3 daily?) and the Blue Islands GCI flights

LBA 3 daily
JER 3 daily
GCI 6 daily
ACI 2 daily

Roughly 1,800 seats perhaps 1,160 passengers for today
And the easyJet to GVA...
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:21
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And Teeside twice daily from next Monday.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:31
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So 2,160 seats or 1,460 pax for today versus what would usually be 4,000-5,000 pax?

I am not sure how the likes of SWISSPORT can cope with something like this?
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 07:54
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Hopefully a LCC will jump on the Scottish routes. EJ could operate from SOU but if Ryanair go for it it will be BOH.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 08:36
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So the runway ext actually becomes more necessary with those aircraft types possibly inbound.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 10:56
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Government at fault

Originally Posted by SotonFlightpath View Post
A devastating blow for SOU, but I believe the airport will bounce back. It’s worth remembering that the financial problems lay with Flybe, not with most of the routes from Southampton. The ‘core routes’ to Manchester, Edinburgh’ Glasgow, Ireland and the Channel Islands are all exceptionally well-used and profitable, and AMS and CDG perform well too.

There will obviously be a disastrous short-term down-turn with the suspension of these services, but in the medium term these core routes will either return with a similar frequency with a mix of other regional carriers, Aer Lingus Regional, Eastern, Loganair, Blue Islands, Aurigny, KLM, or with easyJet ‘cherry picking’ a few domestic routes offering a couple of services a day. And yes, an A319/A320 can operate on these short routes perfectly well.

The demand is clearly there’ and the market will respond in the appropriate way.
While the new owners of Flybe are not blameless, for example when they left DA, their reply to the outrage , was " we will continue key routes but stuck to one aircraft type based at Belfast " ( words to that effect ).
But they didn't Stick to just the Dash 8, they had ageing ' E175/190/195, ATR, Dash 8, and perhaps someone can confirm some smaller props to serve Highland and islands destinations.
It's not so long ago up in Donegal they where operating to Glasgow and I think Manchester .

But back to the point , it cannot have bee. Easy or cheap to maintain such a mixed fleet .
Also they fro. DSA operated to Palma and Alicante , now the big operations like TUI and Easyjet might have afforded the landing slots again that was a. Ost that had they have concentrated on Dash8/ Domestic routes only ( With DUB/AMS/CDG) ,and anything in reasonable range that would be a sure bet to fill such an air raft .

Ought to have saved their bacon, but I blame Govt for not getting rid of APD as well, it's killed too many airlines ( or been a factor ) , even looking at FR24 today is strange seeing only EZY/RYR and a few foreign airlines about .
Surely the GOVT can step in and Nationalise them?, The service they provide re lifeline services in some regions .and the economy already hit byBrexit and Covid19 can it take another shocker.

Southampton is hellish as it took all the cruise flight routes . I just feel so very sorry for the good decent people on the ' coal face ' who worked at Flybe and up and down the supply chain, who are suddenly on the scrap heap .
Again time Govt steps in,and BA was originally a nationalised airline so it's not as if they haven't done it before.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 11:20
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Originally Posted by SotonFlightpath View Post
And Teeside twice daily from next Monday.
I believe the Teesside flight will run 1 flight a day for 6 days xSat starting Monday.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 11:57
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Eastern Airways just positioned there Embraer 170, G-CIXW into Leeds from Humberside, It is increasing capacity onto the Leeds - Southampton route this afternoon instead of using the usual BAe Jetstream 41

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Old 5th Mar 2020, 12:22
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LM have released for sale flights to replace BE’s services to EDI, GLA and NCL

Edinburgh - Up to 4 x Daily ATR72 begins 15th June

Glasgow - Up to 3 x Daily ERJ begins 30th March. Frequency and Capacity increases from 6th July when flights increase to 4 x daily operated by AT72


Newcastle - Up to 3 x Daily ERJ begins 23rd March

ERJ = 49 seat ER4 or 37 seat ER3

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Old 5th Mar 2020, 13:24
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Well, it's a good start. Really keen to see SOU retain its connectivity. I'm realistic that the BE French leisure routes are probably gone for good, but if the airport can find airlines to come in on BHD/BFS, DUB, AMS, CDG and maybe MAN then they can replicate the core Flybe route network as a solid platform to go forward from and begin the post-Flybe rebuilding process.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 13:32
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What about CDG Paris? twas an AF code share....
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 13:34
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Edinburgh - Up to 4 x Daily ATR72 begins 15th June
That's a bit of a time to wait for an EDI route, but I appreciate that aircraft and people to operate them don't grow on trees.

You'd like to think that KLM will come into the frame again on AMS, and maybe EIR on DUB?
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