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Old 29th Oct 2018, 09:19
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL View Post
New 738 JZHT was filling in for DRTF that was stuck down in Lanzarote on Saturday. It has already postioned to Glasgow
Ah well, it would have been nice, fl dutchman.
DRTF, of course, is one of Transaero's 18 year old 737-800's, stored for 2.1/2 years before Jet2 bought it. I guess you get what you pay for. Let's hope it wasn't a lot.
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 16:11
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DRTF, of course, is one of Transaero's 18 year old 737-800's, stored for 2.1/2 years before Jet2 bought it. I guess you get what you pay for. Let's hope it wasn't a lot.
Probably some of the dust it gathered affecting one small area causing it to go tech
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Plane.Silly View Post
Probably some of the dust it gathered affecting one small area causing it to go tech
Probably the wicks in the engines needed trimming 😀
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 16:59
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I think that this conversation is inappropriate, considering that an almost new MAX crashed last night in Indonesia with no survivors.
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 17:14
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
I think that this conversation is inappropriate, considering that an almost new MAX crashed last night in Indonesia with no survivors.
As far as I dac tell this has nothing whatsoever to do with the tragedy in Indonesia. Its just some wry commentsbabout an 18yr old aircraft going tech.
AFAIK the Lion Air 737 was brand new.
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 17:43
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Concur with sixchannel..... I am afraid I cannot see any link between the two events other than the two aircraft were manufactured by Boing some 16 years apart.
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 18:39
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I think its more tounge in cheek about Jet2's lack of newer aircraft being based here not that there is anything wrong with DRTF or it being 18 year old. G-DRTN has just ferried to Manchester maybe thats our next new one
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Old 29th Oct 2018, 18:54
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Originally Posted by LiamNCL View Post
I think its more tounge in cheek about Jet2's lack of newer aircraft being based here not that there is anything wrong with DRTF or it being 18 year old. G-DRTN has just ferried to Manchester maybe thats our next new one
Quite so.
BTW G-DRTN is another mid-life frame ex-Rossiya so you Geordies might get lucky there.😊
Airfleets show it as LEASED from GECAS. Is this a change in direction by Jet2?
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Old 30th Oct 2018, 09:25
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Flybe is still slowly releasing the summer 19 timetable June - Sept. So far confirmed is EXETER ...daily. SOUTHAMPTON ...18 weekly. NEWQUAY.....1 weekly.
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Old 30th Oct 2018, 11:38
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Also Consultative Committee Meeting Minutes have not been published since last year (4th drop down menu in link) :
Consultative Committee Meeting minutes have now been updated ( with minutes from March, June & September 2018 added) on the Airport's website:

https://www.newcastleairport.com/abo...ive-committee/
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 01:53
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On a quiet afternoon why should it take an hour from landing to get out of the front door! Couldn't believe the fiasco today with ques at the new passport machines and the famous wait for the baggage.
As I’ve said previously, the problem that Newcastle has is that it now only has one ground handling agent, aside from fines from airlines/airport itself for breaking any SLA agreements Swissport has no other real reason to provide as quick and efficient service. And Swissport will want to keep their costs to a minimum, it’s not like they have the threat of loosing an airline contract to an alternative provider. It’s either accept Swissport and it’s fees and service levels, or self handle at the airport or potentially leave the market. I do think that Jet2 should self handle at Newcastle, that would take a large proportion in the summer off Swissport.

On a separate note, are any of the Jet2 New York shopping trips operating on the 330 this year, or just the 757?
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 06:14
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl View Post

On a separate note, are any of the Jet2 New York shopping trips operating on the 330 this year, or just the 757?
No all 757 the A330 is going off lease.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 18:05
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl View Post


As Iíve said previously, the problem that Newcastle has is that it now only has one ground handling agent, aside from fines from airlines/airport itself for breaking any SLA agreements Swissport has no other real reason to provide as quick and efficient service. And Swissport will want to keep their costs to a minimum, itís not like they have the threat of loosing an airline contract to an alternative provider. Itís either accept Swissport and itís fees and service levels, or self handle at the airport or potentially leave the market. I do think that Jet2 should self handle at Newcastle, that would take a large proportion in the summer off Swissport.

On a separate note, are any of the Jet2 New York shopping trips operating on the 330 this year, or just the 757?

EZY & BA handling contracts expire in the new year at newcastle so Swissport have every reason to provide a quick and efficient service. Jet2 pay pennies for handling at NCL, so at the minute it doesn't seem viable for them to then buy a lot of their own equipment. At the start of the summer they cut costs even more by running the APU's on first wave instead of having a GPU connected. In november and december jet2 will be getting a delivery of their own branded steps, which of course it has been said on this forum for some time.
Airline handling isn't a lucrative business, having 2 minutes to open a hold door, 2 minutes to open door 1 and up to 3 minutes to open door 2 on an easyjet isn't easy especially when you're supposed to wait 90 seconds for the aircraft to spool down. The dispatchers and ramp team are the same people who worked for aviator & some of which worked for north east aviation services. These people know how to do their jobs. Perhaps the issue lies with paying peanuts for tickets. Maybe if the people of the North East put their hands into their pockets and some more lucrative carriers came into the airport there wouldn't be such an issue with airline handling. It will never be perfect and I personally don't agree with swissport being the only handling agent at NCL, but there's nothing wrong with the service it provides. A lot of the time the 25 minute Easyjet turnaround is hampered by the airport not turning up with the services they say will provide, the morning NCL/PMI or sometimes NCL/ALC is preceded by the aircraft inbound from BFS, I'm not sure if it's been noticed but a domestic in and international out the inbound passengers have to be coached to a different gate.

The light should be shone on NIALs attitude to handling passengers and pax assistance as well as their shortcomings in that department but then what do I know.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 20:37
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Has anyone got any info on the EZY divert to Lisbon on its way to TFS? Was it medical? Asking for a colleague who is in TFS awaiting the return leg which is now delayed until tomorrow afternoon.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 20:56
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BA aren’t certainly going to pay more for a handling contract, not sure what other lucrative carriers would be willing to pay more for a service either. They are all trying to save pennies and BA are particularly ruthless when it comes to these sort of things. Plus NCL doesn’t appear to be on the favourite list with them either at the moment with the such erratic schedule for the winter. I appreciate that handling is not a lucrative business, same as aircraft cleaning (which can be atrocious not just at Newcastle but at all domestic stations including Heathrow) I appreciate they don’t get a long time to complete this, but they manage it a lot better on the continent with the same amount of time. Maybe the RFP process will result in another provider coming to the airport. But I can never see the North East public shelling out more money for tickets. Nor going anywhere more than two weeks on a beach due to the cancellations of Berlin, Madrid and Warsaw.

Ive not had any issues with the PRM handling when I come into Newcastle, for BA, NCL and LBA are the only airports which provide prm assistance in house and they are usually pretty high up with the customer satisfaction. Bussing is obvious it will have its shortfalls due to the amount of busses the airport seem to own. Is it 3 or 4?

Will be interstung to see see how it pans out in the future.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 21:17
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Originally Posted by JonnyH View Post
Has anyone got any info on the EZY divert to Lisbon on its way to TFS? Was it medical? Asking for a colleague who is in TFS awaiting the return leg which is now delayed until tomorrow afternoon.
Wouldn't have thought that length of return delay to be due to a divert, essentially en route, for a medical issue. Maybe the crew is out of hours for the return after the time on ground in Lisbon. 2 x 4.1/2 hr flights + turn round time. Add to that maybe an hour or two in Lisbon.
Checked the aircraft on FR24 - arrived TFS 18.54.

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Old 31st Oct 2018, 21:41
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Originally Posted by Ph1l1pncl View Post
BA arenít certainly going to pay more for a handling contract, not sure what other lucrative carriers would be willing to pay more for a service either. They are all trying to save pennies and BA are particularly ruthless when it comes to these sort of things. Plus NCL doesnít appear to be on the favourite list with them either at the moment with the such erratic schedule for the winter. I appreciate that handling is not a lucrative business, same as aircraft cleaning (which can be atrocious not just at Newcastle but at all domestic stations including Heathrow) I appreciate they donít get a long time to complete this, but they manage it a lot better on the continent with the same amount of time. Maybe the RFP process will result in another provider coming to the airport. But I can never see the North East public shelling out more money for tickets. Nor going anywhere more than two weeks on a beach due to the cancellations of Berlin, Madrid and Warsaw.

Ive not had any issues with the PRM handling when I come into Newcastle, for BA, NCL and LBA are the only airports which provide prm assistance in house and they are usually pretty high up with the customer satisfaction. Bussing is obvious it will have its shortfalls due to the amount of busses the airport seem to own. Is it 3 or 4?

Will be interstung to see see how it pans out in the future.
Airlines have been commoditised and people are more savvy than ever. If the NCL market demands low fare flights to bucket and spade routes then that's what the commodity providers (airlines) will provide. They're not there to make NCL's route map look overly impressive. They're there to turn a profit and provide shareholder return. For such a small and relatively poor area with half of its catchment area being the North Sea, NCL has an impressive range of holiday routes and one stop connections to the globe via DUB, LHR, DXB, CDG, AMS, BRU and the odd connection or two possible on the Eurowings service. Choice and freedom are some of the best features of our modern western world. If you want to spend two weeks in Benidorm drunk you can. If you want a bit more culture, you can. There's no point serving a market that can't support your product.

Airlines are providing lower prices whilst making great margins as a whole and Swissport's half year results suggest they don't have a problem making money. Same with the airport. This also comes with amazing safety. Ryanair and easyJet have carried more passengers than any other airline by far without losing a single passenger. The model of low cost airlines is a sustainable one for the suppliers, airports and the airlines and it's here to stay.
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Old 31st Oct 2018, 22:17
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Originally Posted by sixchannel View Post
Wouldn't have thought that length of return delay to be due to a divert, essentially en route, for a medical issue. Maybe the crew is out of hours for the return after the time on ground in Lisbon. 2 x 4.1/2 hr flights + turn round time. Add to that maybe an hour or two in Lisbon.
Checked the aircraft on FR24 - arrived TFS 18.54.
Yeah aware the return is due to time out of hours but why did it divert to LIS?
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 08:43
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Yeah aware the return is due to time out of hours but why did it divert to LIS?
Try putting the post on the Easyjet threads.
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Old 1st Nov 2018, 09:48
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The September passenger statistics are available on the CAA website today
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