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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 10:32
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Air France changes

W18/19 will se CityJet operating 2 of the 3 daily flights to CDG using the RJ85 again. They will be operating the nightstopper and the late morning rotations with Hop operating the afternoon flight with E170/190 a/c
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Old 22nd Oct 2018, 10:51
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CityJet - Hopefully that will stop the need to leave a lot of bags in Paris on the 11am, full of connecting pax's, Paris!! Plus the Hop crew's have some of the worst customer service I have seen!
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 19:39
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A bit of chatter on the Teesside thread about car-parts flights at the moment. Was that an Antonov I saw from a distance, taking off at approx 1 - 1.30pm? I know there was a Hungarian Saab 340 in a week or so ago.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 21:04
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No - Irish Air Corp CASA 235 or maybe the Eurowings DHC-8
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 22:57
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On a quiet afternoon why should it take an hour from landing to get out of the front door! Couldn't believe the fiasco today with ques at the new passport machines and the famous wait for the baggage.
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Old 23rd Oct 2018, 23:46
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
No - Irish Air Corp CASA 235 or maybe the Eurowings DHC-8
The IAC CASA-235 sounds like the one. I was passing Belsay when I saw it in the distance heading west.
Thanks for the info. My aircraft recog skills need brushing up
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Old 24th Oct 2018, 02:17
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
W18/19 will se CityJet operating 2 of the 3 daily flights to CDG using the RJ85 again. They will be operating the nightstopper and the late morning rotations with Hop operating the afternoon flight with E170/190 a/c
S19 schedule has just been updated. Think the only difference is that all flights will be operated by Hop. A Cityjet AR8 operated one rotation daily this summer

AF1559 NCL 06:10 CDG 09:00 E70 D
AF1059 NCL 12:20 CDG 15:10 E90 x6
AF1059 NCL 12:20 CDG 15:10 E70 6
AF1159 NCL 16:35 CDG 19:25 E90 x6

AF1058 CDG 11:00 NCL 11:45 E90 x6
AF1058 CDG 11:00 NCL 11:45 E70 6
AF1158 CDG 15:00 NCL 15:50 E90 x6
AF1158 CDG 15:00 NCL 15:55 E70 6
AF1558 CDG 22:15 NCL 23:00 E70 x6
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Old 24th Oct 2018, 05:38
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
On a quiet afternoon why should it take an hour from landing to get out of the front door! Couldn't believe the fiasco today with ques at the new passport machines and the famous wait for the baggage.
For many years now NCL has been trying to attract more and more flights and passengers without the infrastructure to cope with them.

And, as I mentioned before, you should take a look at the machine they use to get the baggage on and off the planes. It's unbelievably slow.
Which wouldn't be so bad if the people/person on the plane loading it manage to get on more than 1 bag per minute. The handlers at the bottom spend a long time just standing there waiting for the next bag to get to them.

Which means NCL should get a touch of realism for their schedules. KLM arrives at 12.45pm and departs again at 13.15pm??? Don't make me larf.
In theory, the incoming flight could easily land at 12.30pm but I'm not so sure it manages that regularly so it almost redefines optimism to think NCL could turn a plane round in 30mins.

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Old 24th Oct 2018, 21:26
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Curious Fact.......Airport Facts which shows the monthly movements and pax figures seems to have been removed from the airport website.
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 06:37
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BM will replace the ER3 aircraft based at NCL with a ER4 from 28OCT. The change in aircraft will result in a 30% increase in capacity according to the article. BM currently plan to operate in 2019.

https://www.flybmi.com/en/press/flyb...ium-and-norway
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 09:04
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Originally Posted by ash666

Which means NCL should get a touch of realism for their schedules. KLM arrives at 12.45pm and departs again at 13.15pm??? Don't make me larf.
In theory, the incoming flight could easily land at 12.30pm but I'm not so sure it manages that regularly so it almost redefines optimism to think NCL could turn a plane round in 30mins.
Seeing as that’s the minimum allowed ground time for a KLM Embraer aircraft, then yes it’s more than acheiveable and done so on a regular basis, EZY and Ryanair have even quicker turnarounds with aircraft almost twice the size that you’ll be surprised to know NCL also manages to turn aircraft around in.

BM will replace the ER3 aircraft based at NCL with a ER4 from 28OCT. The change in aircraft will result in a 30% increase in capacity according to the article. BM currently plan to operate in 2019.
I suspect driven by the fact that BMI are transferring an ER3 (XJ) to Loganair but good news never the less.
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Jamesair
Curious Fact.......Airport Facts which shows the monthly movements and pax figures seems to have been removed from the airport website.
All figures have been "wiped" - Wonder why the airport may not want these published? https://www.newcastleairport.com/abo...er-statistics/

Also Consultative Committee Meeting Minutes have not been published since last year (4th drop down menu in link) : :https://www.newcastleairport.com/abo...ive-committee/
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 09:54
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Probably somebody has been looking at the "clicks" and decided it's not cost effective to update.
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 11:30
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Probably somebody has been looking at the "clicks" and decided it's not cost effective to update.
The Latest News page hasn't been updated since 12 July this year either.
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 12:59
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Originally Posted by NCL-TRC


Seeing as that’s the minimum allowed ground time for a KLM Embraer aircraft, then yes it’s more than acheiveable and done so on a regular basis, EZY and Ryanair have even quicker turnarounds with aircraft almost twice the size that you’ll be surprised to know NCL also manages to turn aircraft around in.

I was watching that flight frequently before I last went on holiday and didn't see a 30 minute turnaround on one single occasion.
I looked on the day I posted this and the incoming flight was 10 mins late so KLM would have been trying to get it turned round asap.
It took 50 minutes.
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Old 25th Oct 2018, 14:01
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Originally Posted by ash666
I was watching that flight frequently before I last went on holiday and didn't see a 30 minute turnaround on one single occasion.
I looked on the day I posted this and the incoming flight was 10 mins late so KLM would have been trying to get it turned round asap.
It took 50 minutes.
Where as today’s was turned around in 28 minutes, Yesterday was 38 minutes, I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, I’m presuming flight radar or the airport website, Both of these show landing and take off times and not block times which are used to calculate turnaround time. They also don’t show the doors closed times so you’d be unable to tell if the aircraft was sat on stand closed up awaiting a slot time which going into busy airports like Amsterdam are frequent.

Don’t get me wrong I’m far from being an apologist for NCL, there’s a lot that needs to be improved on however you need to make sure you have the accurate data and background information before you start criticising.
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Originally Posted by NCL-TRC


Where as today’s was turned around in 28 minutes, Yesterday was 38 minutes, I’m not sure where you’re getting your information, I’m presuming flight radar or the airport website, Both of these show landing and take off times and not block times which are used to calculate turnaround time. They also don’t show the doors closed times so you’d be unable to tell if the aircraft was sat on stand closed up awaiting a slot time which going into busy airports like Amsterdam are frequent.

Don’t get me wrong I’m far from being an apologist for NCL, there’s a lot that needs to be improved on however you need to make sure you have the accurate data and background information before you start criticising.
I was getting my info from Flightradar along with arrival times at AMS so I do take your point.
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Traffic on the Brussels service has been rising steadily over recent months, recovering from the terrorist related incident which led to a sharp initial fall in passengers and a frequency reduction. Remember that this route used to support 3 flights daily. Stavanger is steady and, of course, uses the same based aircraft.
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Jet 2-------- Looks like Jet 2 are ending the summer schedules/ starting the winter with 5 x 738(plus1) and 2 x733(minus1) based.
One of the current 738 being a new one!!.


Also notice the 733 is being used on some TFS rotations instead of the usual 738.
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Originally Posted by fl dutchman
Jet 2-------- Looks like Jet 2 are ending the summer schedules/ starting the winter with 5 x 738(plus1) and 2 x733(minus1) based.
One of the current 738 being a new one!!.


Also notice the 733 is being used on some TFS rotations instead of the usual 738.
New 738 JZHT was filling in for DRTF that was stuck down in Lanzarote on Saturday. It has already postioned to Glasgow
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