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Hunting for opportunities or are they happy to just to amble along picking up tiny amounts every year? And..yes I know it’s growth..but when aviation is growing at such a pace elsewhere..not much dynamic outlook shown?
freight ,maintenance,general aviation almost non existence this area and no change for last...how many years?
thats the problem with NE airports...need to be more confident and maybe branch out?
Build it and they they will come....Carlisle apparently!!
But go back a couple of years and the schedule network is..shall we say..a little depleted?
Build it and they they will come....Carlisle apparently!!
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" when aviation is growing at such a pace elsewhere. "
Hmm - not very fast in the UK - Inverness is up from almost zero, Aberdeen,and Dundee are down, Glasgow & Edinburgh see routes come and go . Leeds is not brilliant, Bristol is mainly sun routes.....
NCL is bloody lucky to be able to support Emirates - some other airports would give their eye teeth for that service
Hmm - not very fast in the UK - Inverness is up from almost zero, Aberdeen,and Dundee are down, Glasgow & Edinburgh see routes come and go . Leeds is not brilliant, Bristol is mainly sun routes.....
NCL is bloody lucky to be able to support Emirates - some other airports would give their eye teeth for that service
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You are certainly correct about Dubai, which proves that if the destination (or hub) is what the travelling public and freight movers want, then the service will be very well supported. In a lesser way, Bristol, Southampton and Exeter are domestic equivalents.
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Domestic out of NCL is really places you can't easily get a train to plus interlining in London
The sun routes are a function of local population and income
Europe big cities are breaks and business - and the later isn't a major feature of the landscape TBH
Dubai is a great catch for a small airport
The sun routes are a function of local population and income
Europe big cities are breaks and business - and the later isn't a major feature of the landscape TBH
Dubai is a great catch for a small airport
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New York with United was an interesting experiment, a lot of flights went off with good pax numbers but with a 757, the cargo carrying capacity would have been minimal. Business Class seemed to have reasonable numbers (how many upgrades were involved, I don't know). Maybe with a different aircraft or even a different airline, things could have been different.
Will anyone else give it go? who knows?
Turkish Airlines to Istanbul would give a lot of interchange options and might not upset Emirates too much whereas Qatar??????
Will anyone else give it go? who knows?
Turkish Airlines to Istanbul would give a lot of interchange options and might not upset Emirates too much whereas Qatar??????
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I get HW&U's point that the number of destinations is depleted compared to a few years ago, but I also second SWB's and LHRH's comments that we are punching above our weight, so let's not be too negative. I may have mentioned this once or twice before!
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agreed- even Turkish would hit Emirates loads - I think they'll be trying to get someone to reinstate the USA - maybe Norwegian?? or maybe Canada summer only
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Just been looking at the new, just published, Flybe Winter 18/19 timetable (up to 31st Mar.19).....Isle of Man....last flight 11th June 18.....Belfast City now seems to operate until 11th Jan 19.
The carrier's chief executive Akbar Al Baker confirmed the move during a visit to Cardiff, from where Qatar Airways is set to increase its frequency from five days a week to a daily service from next month.
Qatar Airways, which bills itself as ‘the world’s five-star airline’, insists it wants to keep expanding in the UK, where it already flies to four destinations, and later this month will add London Gatwick as a fifth.
And Mr Baker said he "wants to launch services from Belfast as our next UK departure point".
Qatar Airways, which bills itself as ‘the world’s five-star airline’, insists it wants to keep expanding in the UK, where it already flies to four destinations, and later this month will add London Gatwick as a fifth.
And Mr Baker said he "wants to launch services from Belfast as our next UK departure point".
Anyway, don't think EK will be too worried by Qatar or Turkish - seem to compete quite happily elsewhere
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DY MAX aircraft would have the right side aircraft to offer a daily service to NYC or BOS
Also all economy class which seems to be the only thing that sold on the united
However will DY want to offer NCL as its close to EDI if they are trying to get EDI to work and have they not just reduced ops up there.
Really needs to be year round if its to attract any kind of business pax rather than just leisure.
Personally i think we would be better to wait until JetBlue gets its A321NEO jets as if they do start ops to the UK it may make sense for connections rather than DY
Also all economy class which seems to be the only thing that sold on the united
However will DY want to offer NCL as its close to EDI if they are trying to get EDI to work and have they not just reduced ops up there.
Really needs to be year round if its to attract any kind of business pax rather than just leisure.
Personally i think we would be better to wait until JetBlue gets its A321NEO jets as if they do start ops to the UK it may make sense for connections rather than DY
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DY MAX aircraft would have the right side aircraft to offer a daily service to NYC or BOS
Also all economy class which seems to be the only thing that sold on the united
However will DY want to offer NCL as its close to EDI if they are trying to get EDI to work and have they not just reduced ops up there.
Really needs to be year round if its to attract any kind of business pax rather than just leisure.
Personally i think we would be better to wait until JetBlue gets its A321NEO jets as if they do start ops to the UK it may make sense for connections rather than DY
Also all economy class which seems to be the only thing that sold on the united
However will DY want to offer NCL as its close to EDI if they are trying to get EDI to work and have they not just reduced ops up there.
Really needs to be year round if its to attract any kind of business pax rather than just leisure.
Personally i think we would be better to wait until JetBlue gets its A321NEO jets as if they do start ops to the UK it may make sense for connections rather than DY
As for JetBlue they'll go for the traditional long haul markets Dublin, Edinburgh and London and maybe Manchester, i can't see them going elsewhere in the UK if they actually do launch transatlantic, they may decide to focus towards Latin America and South America.
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JetBlue is interesting as it has seemed to me in the past that a tie up or code share with Jet2 for transatlantic flights from JFK into the likes of Jet2 bases such as Stansted Belfast Leeds and Newcastle which do not have much or any USA flights would work well. JetBlue passengers could be fed onto European flights with Jet2 whilst Jet2 passengers could be fed onto the JetBlue extensive USA network.
JetBlue is interesting as it has seemed to me in the past that a tie up or code share with Jet2 for transatlantic flights from JFK into the likes of Jet2 bases such as Stansted Belfast Leeds and Newcastle which do not have much or any USA flights would work well. JetBlue passengers could be fed onto European flights with Jet2 whilst Jet2 passengers could be fed onto the JetBlue extensive USA network.
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JetBlue is interesting as it has seemed to me in the past that a tie up or code share with Jet2 for transatlantic flights from JFK into the likes of Jet2 bases such as Stansted Belfast Leeds and Newcastle which do not have much or any USA flights would work well. JetBlue passengers could be fed onto European flights with Jet2 whilst Jet2 passengers could be fed onto the JetBlue extensive USA network.
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The advantage TK holds where they operate is that with the 738 or A320 they can often offer a double daily whereas the EK 77W is limited to once a day unless signficicant growth takes place.
TK also operate their shorthaul fleet with proper business class seats.
Whether they will see NCL as attractive as a whole between MAN and EDI is anyone's guess.
TK also operate their shorthaul fleet with proper business class seats.
Whether they will see NCL as attractive as a whole between MAN and EDI is anyone's guess.