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agreed.
without wanting to stoke up, they’re a business trying to make profit etc it seems a very tokanist move to shut NCL at this time. Crew claim they were told it was profitable, it can’t be performing any worse than everywhere else and unless the aircraft are leaving the fleet (they may be, don’t know) the saving will appear to be marginal. Except next year when the exceptional items (base closures) are shown in the accounts and makes underlying performance better than it actually was.
but this is easyJet who if I remember correctly moved ncl based aircraft to bfs at short notice to complete with a new operator there and were then
beaten into the ground by Jet2 at Ncl, they never appeared to be the dominant low cost carrier that they claimed to be....
Just my opionin, and for what it’s worth can’t see the mayor and MME ending well either (just look at how leadership at the conservative run Northumberland council is unravelling)!!
without wanting to stoke up, they’re a business trying to make profit etc it seems a very tokanist move to shut NCL at this time. Crew claim they were told it was profitable, it can’t be performing any worse than everywhere else and unless the aircraft are leaving the fleet (they may be, don’t know) the saving will appear to be marginal. Except next year when the exceptional items (base closures) are shown in the accounts and makes underlying performance better than it actually was.
but this is easyJet who if I remember correctly moved ncl based aircraft to bfs at short notice to complete with a new operator there and were then
beaten into the ground by Jet2 at Ncl, they never appeared to be the dominant low cost carrier that they claimed to be....
Just my opionin, and for what it’s worth can’t see the mayor and MME ending well either (just look at how leadership at the conservative run Northumberland council is unravelling)!!
The signs have been there for years, last base to lose the 737, reduction in based units, a base of sunshine and domestic routes, but city destinations run for a couple of years and get dropped - basically the small customer base for these destinations has been their, and so time to move on...
What's the difference - look at the income levels of the respective catchment areas.
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The obvious potential danger to BRS is the over-reliance on easyJet which carried over 50% of its 9 million annual passengers pre-COVID. Today 29 of BRS's 48 airline departures were easyJet (48 is about 45% of the airport's normal programme this time of the year) which is broadly in line with August as a whole.
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At one stage NCL ran neck to neck with BRS as an EZY base, similar size, similar range of routes - now NCL is shut, and BRS is how many ???
The signs have been there for years, last base to lose the 737, reduction in based units, a base of sunshine and domestic routes, but city destinations run for a couple of years and get dropped - basically the small customer base for these destinations has been their, and so time to move on...
What's the difference - look at the income levels of the respective catchment areas.
The signs have been there for years, last base to lose the 737, reduction in based units, a base of sunshine and domestic routes, but city destinations run for a couple of years and get dropped - basically the small customer base for these destinations has been their, and so time to move on...
What's the difference - look at the income levels of the respective catchment areas.
at NCL in the early days high frequency domestic routes (STN, BRS and BFS) worked well with the favourite Med destinations. Start cutting back the domestic and letting Jet2 (and thomsonfly I think with the 737-300) beat them on the Med routes and it all went pear shaped.
I remember flying to Prague with EZY from
NCL and was surprised how full the plane was and how many business travellers there were. On the other hand went to BUD and it was only half full wit xmas market shoppers. So based on this extensive research I think without being an expert there are routes that will work from ncl and those that won’t. I think they tried too many that wouldn’t. Used to fly to all three domestics and every flight was full. I Think ezy moved from being low cost which NCL punters originally embraced and then the airport and
customers didn’t fit with it.
BRS was due to have 18 based easyJet aircraft this summer: 10 x A320, 6 x A319, 2 x A321 with nearly 80 easyJet routes albeit some seasonal. The pandemic quickly put paid to that though.
The obvious potential danger to BRS is the over-reliance on easyJet which carried over 50% of its 9 million annual passengers pre-COVID. Today 29 of BRS's 48 airline departures were easyJet (48 is about 45% of the airport's normal programme this time of the year) which is broadly in line with August as a whole.
The obvious potential danger to BRS is the over-reliance on easyJet which carried over 50% of its 9 million annual passengers pre-COVID. Today 29 of BRS's 48 airline departures were easyJet (48 is about 45% of the airport's normal programme this time of the year) which is broadly in line with August as a whole.
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while I agree to a certain extent I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. There is money up here just not as much!
at NCL in the early days high frequency domestic routes (STN, BRS and BFS) worked well with the favourite Med destinations. Start cutting back the domestic and letting Jet2 (and thomsonfly I think with the 737-300) beat them on the Med routes and it all went pear shaped.
I remember flying to Prague with EZY from
NCL and was surprised how full the plane was and how many business travellers there were. On the other hand went to BUD and it was only half full wit xmas market shoppers. So based on this extensive research I think without being an expert there are routes that will work from ncl and those that won’t. I think they tried too many that wouldn’t. Used to fly to all three domestics and every flight was full. I Think ezy moved from being low cost which NCL punters originally embraced and then the airport and
customers didn’t fit with it.
at NCL in the early days high frequency domestic routes (STN, BRS and BFS) worked well with the favourite Med destinations. Start cutting back the domestic and letting Jet2 (and thomsonfly I think with the 737-300) beat them on the Med routes and it all went pear shaped.
I remember flying to Prague with EZY from
NCL and was surprised how full the plane was and how many business travellers there were. On the other hand went to BUD and it was only half full wit xmas market shoppers. So based on this extensive research I think without being an expert there are routes that will work from ncl and those that won’t. I think they tried too many that wouldn’t. Used to fly to all three domestics and every flight was full. I Think ezy moved from being low cost which NCL punters originally embraced and then the airport and
customers didn’t fit with it.
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until working from home switches to getting back to the office there will be little business travel. Unfortunately a lot of firms (mine included) have realised how much of the travel budget was not necessary spending so will be reluctant to approve business trips by train or plane to London etc.
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technically an increase from now though if there is a positive. Doesn’t appear to be a flight today.
until working from home switches to getting back to the office there will be little business travel. Unfortunately a lot of firms (mine included) have realised how much of the travel budget was not necessary spending so will be reluctant to approve business trips by train or plane to London etc.
until working from home switches to getting back to the office there will be little business travel. Unfortunately a lot of firms (mine included) have realised how much of the travel budget was not necessary spending so will be reluctant to approve business trips by train or plane to London etc.
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Nice to see JET2 adding flights - extra Saturday flight added to the NCL to CFU route from 19th September for the final month of the season, picking up where Easyjet have deserted the airport. Meaning JET2 are now up to 3 a week on this route.
The last seat on the BA NCL to LHR flight last night was going for £633 one way.
The last seat on the BA NCL to LHR flight last night was going for £633 one way.
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Loganair launching Aberdeen-Newcastle-Newquay from 29 March 2021 - initially 2x weekly flights before increasing to 3x weekly flights from 30 June 2021. Saturday and Sunday rotations NCL-NQY-NCL will be added (no ABZ tag) from 22 May 2020
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Is that 'permanently' or 'indefinitely'? With the low number of flights at present, I can see sense in the latter. If the former, then maybe a little ominous. But, strange times and all that.
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Judging by posts on Flyertalk and BA staff on there, it’s a permanent closure.
More expected but disappointing cost cutting. Imagine they’ll sign a deal with Aspire if things get back up and running.
More expected but disappointing cost cutting. Imagine they’ll sign a deal with Aspire if things get back up and running.
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LM’s S21 schedule is now on sale through until the end of August 2021. LM are currently planning to operate:
Aberdeen - up to 17 x Weekly
Bergen - 3 x Weekly (Wed/Fri/Sun) from 31st March
Exeter - 8 x Weekly (2 flight op on a Friday)
Newquay - Between 2 and 5 x Weekly
Southampton - 17 x Weekly (3 x Daily Mon-Fri and Daily Sat/Sun)
Stavanger - 5 x Weekly (Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri/Sun)
GCI - No direct flights are currently on sale. However LM are offering up to 2 flights a day to GCI via SOU through there codeshare with Blue Island.
Aberdeen - up to 17 x Weekly
Bergen - 3 x Weekly (Wed/Fri/Sun) from 31st March
Exeter - 8 x Weekly (2 flight op on a Friday)
Newquay - Between 2 and 5 x Weekly
Southampton - 17 x Weekly (3 x Daily Mon-Fri and Daily Sat/Sun)
Stavanger - 5 x Weekly (Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri/Sun)
GCI - No direct flights are currently on sale. However LM are offering up to 2 flights a day to GCI via SOU through there codeshare with Blue Island.
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Maybe Jet2 but think aircraft maybe too big.
hopefully if things improve before next summer we see loganair base another aircraft or could we see Eastern or Stobart with there ATR on the Jersey
