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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 18:48
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Originally Posted by easyflyer83
Recession or not, donít write off strong pent up demand. There is very strong evidence that in the financial crash of the late 00ís, people were ring fencing money for holidays.

There may be cuts to how much they will splash out, and a pragmatic review of where they go along with some cut back on those very discretionary weekend breaks and stag doís etc but ultimately, the traditional holiday destinations in the Med and Canaries will be booming next summer, Covid permitting.
Have you seen the current and projected unemployment figures? Canít see many people who are on Jobseekerís Allowance being able to afford to go away on holiday. The forthcoming financial and economic crisis is quite sobering.
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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 21:06
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The market will be split. Yes, there are people who have lost jobs and income who will have nothing to spare. But there are also those whose skills have been in demand like never before. NHS staff, logistics workers, online retailers, delivery support, utilities staff, carers, IT staff. Many of these will have earned more than before, and for most taking a holiday has not been an option. Remember too that many retirees have seen their pensions coming in as normal but have not been out spending as they usually would. So there is a pent-up market for travel out there. Maybe not as broad-based as pre-Covid, but there are plenty who look forward to traveling again when all these rules and restrictions have been lifted.

An unemployment rate of 10% - dismal - would still imply that 90% are working and bringing in an income.


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Old 23rd Aug 2020, 22:39
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer
Have you seen the current and projected unemployment figures? Canít see many people who are on Jobseekerís Allowance being able to afford to go away on holiday. The forthcoming financial and economic crisis is quite sobering.
My point was that during the last recession the travel and airline industry proved to be more resilient than in previous downturns. Given that people place more value on a holiday these days, often at the expense of other discretionary expenditure, and the fact that there is still some money that will be flowing that was saved during lockdown, a strong holiday market in the traditional destinations shouldnít come as a surprise.
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Old 24th Aug 2020, 15:51
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July CAA stats out. Busiest routes were PMI, ALV, AGP, all over 5,000 pax. "Best" performing route was WRO - only down 68%!
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Old 24th Aug 2020, 16:15
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Maybe there are a lot of people like me who would love to use the Pisa flight but don't want to be stuck there for a week.
Could they not do 3 or 4 night trips one way or another?
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 21:48
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Maybe there are a lot of people like me who would love to use the Pisa flight but don't want to be stuck there for a week.
Could they not do 3 or 4 night trips one way or another?
All about critical mass, I guess. Would they gain enough passengers to justify another flight? My guess would be no, at the moment anyway. It's lush round there anyway, have a week there
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Old 25th Aug 2020, 22:49
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I think Pisa was due to be twice weekly before covid.
It has been in past years.
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 18:22
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Some good news, Eurowings restart Dusseldorf 3 x weekly from next week (Wed, Fri,Sun).
Good to have a wee bit of positivity amongst a lot of negativity
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 19:13
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Anyone know the British Airways heathrow plans..seem very erratic at mo. Some colleagues planning on a few return trips next week..said I would ask! I did point out the web site!!
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Old 26th Aug 2020, 23:19
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly
Anyone know the British Airways heathrow plans..seem very erratic at mo. Some colleagues planning on a few return trips next week..said I would ask! I did point out the web site!!
Seems to be one flight daily but not all days until 1 Oct then 5 Daily to end of Oct. Then 2/3 Daily up to end Dec. That was as per yesterday. Changing often.

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Old 31st Aug 2020, 07:57
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Sad day with the last day of easyJet based ops today.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 09:20
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According to another thread 6 regional airports are bidding for Aer Lingus routes to the USA on a three year contract from 2021 using A321LR aircraft (these a/c are currently based at Shannon). Two of the airports are BHX and MAN but not known who the other four are......NCL?
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 09:46
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Only if they had more money than sense.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 12:32
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Only if they had more money than sense
That will be MME then ......... :-)
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 13:45
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According to another thread 6 regional airports are bidding for Aer Lingus routes to the USA on a three year contract from 2021 using A321LR aircraft (these a/c are currently based at Shannon). Two of the airports are BHX and MAN but not known who the other four are......NCL?
BRS will be one, I guess that NCL probably is another, or perhaps LBA.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 17:49
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
BRS will be one, I guess that NCL probably is another, or perhaps LBA.
The article says EDI.
Presumably theyd be likely to select somewhere with as near to zero competition.
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 18:18
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
The article says EDI.
Presumably theyd be likely to select somewhere with as near to zero competition.
Most likely:
MAN, BHX, GLA, EDI, BRS and BFS
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 19:36
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Originally Posted by GrahamK
Sad day with the last day of easyJet based ops today.
agreed.

without wanting to stoke up, theyíre a business trying to make profit etc it seems a very tokanist move to shut NCL at this time. Crew claim they were told it was profitable, it canít be performing any worse than everywhere else and unless the aircraft are leaving the fleet (they may be, donít know) the saving will appear to be marginal. Except next year when the exceptional items (base closures) are shown in the accounts and makes underlying performance better than it actually was.

but this is easyJet who if I remember correctly moved ncl based aircraft to bfs at short notice to complete with a new operator there and were then
beaten into the ground by Jet2 at Ncl, they never appeared to be the dominant low cost carrier that they claimed to be....

Just my opionin, and for what itís worth canít see the mayor and MME ending well either (just look at how leadership at the conservative run Northumberland council is unravelling)!!
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 19:56
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
BRS will be one, I guess that NCL probably is another, or perhaps LBA.

im guessing ncl will Be in the running but Iím guessing Edinburgh and maybe lgw will be the 2 that win.

IAG will want to go where they can make more money and keep other out like DY !!

just my guess would be nice but 10% of this happening
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Old 31st Aug 2020, 20:36
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just my guess would be nice but 10% of this happening
I've got this really nice bridge for sale, if you're interested?
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