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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 13:29
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
If Stobart was brought in to run your local airport would you be happy?
I hold no brief for Stobart, but what is that remark supposed to mean? When Stobart took over SEN the pax through put was minimal with one flight a week to Jersey during the summer.

Now nearly £200 million later with an extended runway, new terminal, new apron, control tower and state of the art radar and pax numbers on the way to two million what's not to like. Oh and by the way add a brand new railway station connecting the airport to London in 50 mins with up to eight trains an hour.

I have a feeling SOU for one would be pleased with that kind of investment!

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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 14:20
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
If Stobart was brought in to run your local airport would you be happy?
This relates to the rumour that Stobart may be the new operator of DTVA if the Mayor succeeds in buying the airport from Peel.
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 14:50
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Originally Posted by N707ZS
If Stobart was brought in to run your local airport would you be happy?
It's a good job that Stobaphobia is not yet classified as a hate crime!!!
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Old 23rd Dec 2018, 22:07
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It's not a criticism, it was an honest question. Planespeaking has given me the best answer. If they can do to my local what they have done to Southend it would be great.
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Heard yet another rumour from a pilot that Ryanair will be using Laudamotion aircraft for SEN operations. Do we still have no definitive answer on this?
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 15:53
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Originally Posted by tws123
Heard yet another rumour from a pilot that Ryanair will be using Laudamotion aircraft for SEN operations. Do we still have no definitive answer on this?
I have always feared that a B738 operation from SEN might suffer to many set backs, despite the runway upgrading due to start soon. An A320 operation makes sense to me.
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 18:52
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They will be using the 737-800 with short field performance package.
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 18:54
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Originally Posted by fatmed
They will be using the 737-800 with short field performance package.
So the Laudamotion rumour is rubbish ? I am neutral on this
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Old 30th Dec 2018, 23:45
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Originally Posted by tophat27dt
I have always feared that a B738 operation from SEN might suffer to many set backs, despite the runway upgrading due to start soon. An A320 operation makes sense to me.
Is A320 performance markedly better on the routes FR will be operating on? Apart for the Greek routes the others are all ~2hours flight time. What is the impact of the short-field package, does it benefit both take-off and landing?
Laudamotion is an interesting experiment, not only are they operating A320/A320 but they seem to be rolling over their inherited AB aircraft for IAE-powered A320s. Lauda currently have 11 aircraft, and plans for them, no doubt, but if needs be they could swap around with FR 737s. I think FR operated some flights for Lauda, they might still?
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 06:07
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Railway tickets

anyone with contacts with the train service. Two out of three recent visits up to fifteen minutes to buy a ticket including at the ticket machine! Generally two staff at the counter with one window open.
Love using the old Rochford airport which I first ventured across over sixty years ago and the only other complaints is the security scanner where I always have to take my shoes off and then stand like Jesus sans cross for no particular reason and the phone reception in the airport!
Rest a pleasure.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 07:42
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blind pew - If you have a smartphone you can buy an e-ticket through the Greater Anglia app. The apps of some other operators also have this function. The ticket works immediately.

Alternatively buy a ticket in advance from the website of any rail operator and collect it from a station convenient to you. Don’t wait until you’re in Southend as you’ll still have to queue! Having a ticket about your person also means being ready for a train should one come as soon as you reach the station.

To be fair, Southend isn’t the only airport station with long queues - I had the same at MAN on my first visit and quickly learnt my lesson.

Cant comment on phone reception- I’ve never had a problem other than at security where you shouldn’t be using it anyway though free WiFi is available.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 07:58
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E ticket

Tried that but the only link had buy the ticket and collect it at the machine in the station which I saw others doing using their phone. But there was a 15 minute wait on the machine. Doesn't seem available. As I'm flying in from abroad the option of visiting a railway station isn't available.
Two ticket machines aren't enough and one lazy ticket seller doesn't help.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 08:24
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Originally Posted by blind pew
Tried that but the only link had buy the ticket and collect it at the machine in the station which I saw others doing using their phone. But there was a 15 minute wait on the machine. Doesn't seem available. As I'm flying in from abroad the option of visiting a railway station isn't available.
Two ticket machines aren't enough and one lazy ticket seller doesn't help.
Complain to the lazy ticket seller.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 08:41
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey
Is A320 performance markedly better on the routes FR will be operating on? Apart for the Greek routes the others are all ~2hours flight time. What is the impact of the short-field package, does it benefit both take-off and landing?
Laudamotion is an interesting experiment, not only are they operating A320/A320 but they seem to be rolling over their inherited AB aircraft for IAE-powered A320s. Lauda currently have 11 aircraft, and plans for them, no doubt, but if needs be they could swap around with FR 737s. I think FR operated some flights for Lauda, they might still?
I think it's mainly the LDR which is the critical factor at SEN for RYRs 738 SFP fleet. The 'standard' 738 is not commercially viable at SEN. That is the main reason the runway is being grooved during the next couple of months. Grooving should normally mean that a runway can be treated as Dry in terms of performance calculations and only in exceptional circumstances is it likely to be declared WET WET WET when the extra 15% LDR would apply. I assume that RYR SOPs treat a grooved runway in this way and there must have been discussions on the subject between the parties when the SEN/RYR deal was struck.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 10:15
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Originally Posted by blind pew
Tried that but the only link had buy the ticket and collect it at the machine in the station which I saw others doing using their phone. But there was a 15 minute wait on the machine. Doesn't seem available. As I'm flying in from abroad the option of visiting a railway station isn't available.
Two ticket machines aren't enough and one lazy ticket seller doesn't help.
The trainline app allows you to buy tickets for travel. Southend Airport has e-tickets available, but not all stations do. With the most recent update the tickets are saved to your Apple Wallet, like a boarding pass and pop up based on time/location.

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I think it's mainly the LDR which is the critical factor at SEN for RYRs 738 SFP fleet. The 'standard' 738 is not commercially viable at SEN.
That much of a restriction? Would loads be reduced to less than 150 like a 737-700, or is it a restriction which cannot be overcome by limiting load and inherent to the 738 due to speeds/angles/etc?
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 10:56
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WET WET WET…

So how is it that STN with a fully International compatible & grooved R/W declares 3 WET`s in any & all precipitation?
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 11:08
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Originally Posted by southside bobby
WET WET WET…
So how is it that STN with a fully International compatible & grooved R/W declares 3 WET`s in any & all precipitation?
I suppose it must be because the runway exhibits a reflective surface sheen "in any & all precipitation". If so it would suggest the grooving is not serving its purpose for some reason.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 11:14
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Originally Posted by brian_dromey
That much of a restriction? Would loads be reduced to less than 150 like a 737-700, or is it a restriction which cannot be overcome by limiting load and inherent to the 738 due to speeds/angles/etc?
I used to have the figures for the 738 and from memory something around 90 pax was the maximum that SEN's LDA of 1604m would allow. The only pax flights of a 738 at SEN were two Luxair departures to Pau with rugby supporters, both being full. The aircraft positioned in empty each time having flown the pax into LTN a day or so earlier.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 11:23
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Originally Posted by tws123
Heard yet another rumour from a pilot that Ryanair will be using Laudamotion aircraft for SEN operations. Do we still have no definitive answer on this?
FWIW Ryanair are operating at least one DUB-VIE-DUB rotation a week (think it is Sunday) using a Laudamotion flight number and callsign, so there is already some form of co-operation going on.
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Old 31st Dec 2018, 11:27
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It's an interesting discussion, but I think we can rest assured that FR have carried out all the necessary evaluations, have a plan in place and are not just going to suck it and see.
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