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Most people in the southend conurbation ****e their pants at having to cross the a127 at peak time..
Never mind the ****eshow that is the a130/a12 junction. Chuck in a school run and you need supplies in your car .
ryanair will always have a market for Dublin from Southend at a low level
Never mind the ****eshow that is the a130/a12 junction. Chuck in a school run and you need supplies in your car .
ryanair will always have a market for Dublin from Southend at a low level
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Most people in the southend conurbation ****e their pants at having to cross the a127 at peak time..
Never mind the ****eshow that is the a130/a12 junction. Chuck in a school run and you need supplies in your car .
ryanair will always have a market for Dublin from Southend at a low level
Never mind the ****eshow that is the a130/a12 junction. Chuck in a school run and you need supplies in your car .
ryanair will always have a market for Dublin from Southend at a low level
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Strange. I see little of a defensive aura here over FR. But someone mentions SEN could try again for a humble PSO route and pop pop pop. But we all know STN will always have more continental connections. We all know STN will always have top class coach services. As for pointing out that Cambridge can be reached faster from STN, well I never.
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My post regarding PSO is portrayed incorrectly as may have be assumed it would be beforehand anyway.
"Humble" PSO?.....well hardly you may wish to refer that terminology to the Derry region.
I`m more interested in portraying the advantages to the customer which is the reality & reasoning surely with a PSO...& certainly is not "pop pop pop" & a cut & paste from the STN brochure as alluded to.
Well aware any operator to any "London" airport can bid however in this instance STN compared with SEN for the customer has little contest of course.
Did not mention London access deliberately but was raised in argument anyway as expected.
It is not all about London as Cambridge is a focus area now too.
"Humble" PSO?.....well hardly you may wish to refer that terminology to the Derry region.
I`m more interested in portraying the advantages to the customer which is the reality & reasoning surely with a PSO...& certainly is not "pop pop pop" & a cut & paste from the STN brochure as alluded to.
Well aware any operator to any "London" airport can bid however in this instance STN compared with SEN for the customer has little contest of course.
Did not mention London access deliberately but was raised in argument anyway as expected.
It is not all about London as Cambridge is a focus area now too.
Winning an industry-best award is great for senior management at the awards dinner party but otherwise pointless. Airlines and (even more so) passengers generally don't care whether you came first or middle-of-the-table when buying an air ticket. Southend is not trying to compete with Farnborough / Biggin Hill for the luxury experience. Acadaemia prizes the A* award, the rest of the world prefers the cheaper-to-achieve-but-good-enough B+
Even the airport which seems regularly to be ranked worst (yes, the one in/near Bedfordshire, I'm looking at you) is seeing huge growth in pax numbers over the last few years
It says to me that the terminal is likely to be significantly underused and (even with Ryanair coming), there should be a significant effort towards pulling in more airlines and routes.
Being able to go through a near-empty airport feels nice at the time but to a passenger an airport is simply a port facility. The people of London and East Anglia are best served when Southend is operating at 90% of capacity - it means high levels of connectivity to the rest of the world, boosts the local economy and leads to strong competition with other airports to ensure everyone involved in air transport is operating at the top of their game
Even the airport which seems regularly to be ranked worst (yes, the one in/near Bedfordshire, I'm looking at you) is seeing huge growth in pax numbers over the last few years
It says to me that the terminal is likely to be significantly underused and (even with Ryanair coming), there should be a significant effort towards pulling in more airlines and routes.
Being able to go through a near-empty airport feels nice at the time but to a passenger an airport is simply a port facility. The people of London and East Anglia are best served when Southend is operating at 90% of capacity - it means high levels of connectivity to the rest of the world, boosts the local economy and leads to strong competition with other airports to ensure everyone involved in air transport is operating at the top of their game
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Winning an industry-best award is great for senior management at the awards dinner party but otherwise pointless. Airlines and (even more so) passengers generally don't care whether you came first or middle-of-the-table when buying an air ticket. Southend is not trying to compete with Farnborough / Biggin Hill for the luxury experience. Acadaemia prizes the A* award, the rest of the world prefers the cheaper-to-achieve-but-good-enough B+
Even the airport which seems regularly to be ranked worst (yes, the one in/near Bedfordshire, I'm looking at you) is seeing huge growth in pax numbers over the last few years
It says to me that the terminal is likely to be significantly underused and (even with Ryanair coming), there should be a significant effort towards pulling in more airlines and routes.
Being able to go through a near-empty airport feels nice at the time but to a passenger an airport is simply a port facility. The people of London and East Anglia are best served when Southend is operating at 90% of capacity - it means high levels of connectivity to the rest of the world, boosts the local economy and leads to strong competition with other airports to ensure everyone involved in air transport is operating at the top of their game
Even the airport which seems regularly to be ranked worst (yes, the one in/near Bedfordshire, I'm looking at you) is seeing huge growth in pax numbers over the last few years
It says to me that the terminal is likely to be significantly underused and (even with Ryanair coming), there should be a significant effort towards pulling in more airlines and routes.
Being able to go through a near-empty airport feels nice at the time but to a passenger an airport is simply a port facility. The people of London and East Anglia are best served when Southend is operating at 90% of capacity - it means high levels of connectivity to the rest of the world, boosts the local economy and leads to strong competition with other airports to ensure everyone involved in air transport is operating at the top of their game
Thankyou for your thoughtful input!
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A little harsh from DJ, but it's hard to argue with what he's saying.
I would say though that over the last few years, I could highlight maybe half a dozen flights from SEN that I've taken for leisure that I simply wouldn't have bothered with if I'd have to have gone from any other port facility. And I'll shortly be booking a couple of NQY flights. If I had to fly from anywhere else, I'd drive.
So I do hope the management keep trying to make their customers' terminal experience as hassle free and pleasant as possible, investing as necessary as numbers grow. I don't doubt for a moment though, that if Stobart could swop those awards for a couple of million extra pax they most certainly would.
I would say though that over the last few years, I could highlight maybe half a dozen flights from SEN that I've taken for leisure that I simply wouldn't have bothered with if I'd have to have gone from any other port facility. And I'll shortly be booking a couple of NQY flights. If I had to fly from anywhere else, I'd drive.
So I do hope the management keep trying to make their customers' terminal experience as hassle free and pleasant as possible, investing as necessary as numbers grow. I don't doubt for a moment though, that if Stobart could swop those awards for a couple of million extra pax they most certainly would.
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What’s the breakdown of these so called awards ? What’s the Questions that are asked and to whom ?
There is no way that SEN can be put in any category with any major Airports.
Its like putting a 70 year old man into a miss world contest.
or a better example move Southend passengers to LGW, STN or LTN and send their passengers to Southend and see where Southend would come in the rankings.
Im not Bitter I’m just living in the real world.
There is no way that SEN can be put in any category with any major Airports.
Its like putting a 70 year old man into a miss world contest.
or a better example move Southend passengers to LGW, STN or LTN and send their passengers to Southend and see where Southend would come in the rankings.
Im not Bitter I’m just living in the real world.
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It's not just the terminal experience but getting to and from the airport experience.
Still not great at the weekends with a 2 hour travel time by public transport but at least the end is in sight.
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Still not great at the weekends with a 2 hour travel time by public transport but at least the end is in sight.
Passengers travelling to London
Saturday and Sunday services from London Southend Airport to London (via Shenfield) from 1st September until 25th of November will be replaced by a bus service, calling at all stations between London Southend Airport and Shenfield. There are no planned service interruptions between Shenfield and London Liverpool Street. (Average journey time to London – 2 hours and 3 minutes).
London Southend has also identified faster routes for its passengers:An airport shared taxi service providing a direct connection to Shenfield available from the taxi marshal service at £15 per passenger. Estimated journey time to Shenfield 30 minutes.
X30 bus to Southend Central, connecting you to the c2c line for trains direct to London. Estimated journey time is 11 minutes on bus to Southend Central and one hour from Southend Central on the train. Arriva number 9 bus (located near the Holiday Inn) which stops at Whitegate Road and is a 6-minute walk to Southend Central station, connecting you to the c2c line for trains direct to London.
Please note, passengers travelling to London after 22:45, the airport shared taxi service will provide a direct connection to Leigh-on-Sea only for the c2c line, available from the taxi marshal service at £5 per passenger.
Saturday and Sunday services from London Southend Airport to London (via Shenfield) from 1st September until 25th of November will be replaced by a bus service, calling at all stations between London Southend Airport and Shenfield. There are no planned service interruptions between Shenfield and London Liverpool Street. (Average journey time to London – 2 hours and 3 minutes).
London Southend has also identified faster routes for its passengers:An airport shared taxi service providing a direct connection to Shenfield available from the taxi marshal service at £15 per passenger. Estimated journey time to Shenfield 30 minutes.
X30 bus to Southend Central, connecting you to the c2c line for trains direct to London. Estimated journey time is 11 minutes on bus to Southend Central and one hour from Southend Central on the train. Arriva number 9 bus (located near the Holiday Inn) which stops at Whitegate Road and is a 6-minute walk to Southend Central station, connecting you to the c2c line for trains direct to London.
Please note, passengers travelling to London after 22:45, the airport shared taxi service will provide a direct connection to Leigh-on-Sea only for the c2c line, available from the taxi marshal service at £5 per passenger.
Public transport is certainly a current weakness in SEN's offering and hopefully this will improve next year.
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Could not agree more Mr Johnson. It is down to practicalities. My UK base has changed to East Sussex from Bedfordshire so I will now be using Gatwick (not my number one airport), nothing against Southend, Norwich etc. it just down to practicalities ie not having to go very far by train, drive etc. Not sour grapes at all Mikkie grow up.
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So this say it all about Airport awards, CAX has just won one and there hasn’t even been any flights or passengers yet
from Carlisle airport Facebook.
Carlisle Lake District Airport won the Best General Aviation Airport Award at last night’s AOA Annual Conference Dinner, hosted in Westminster, London. It's a small step in the big picture of the airport's future but one we're immensely proud of! Martin Robinson, the CEO of AOPA, said: "We were pleased to make the award to Carlisle Lake District Airport because of its strategic importance for GA by location." https://tinyurl.com/ycufnf3p
from Carlisle airport Facebook.
Carlisle Lake District Airport won the Best General Aviation Airport Award at last night’s AOA Annual Conference Dinner, hosted in Westminster, London. It's a small step in the big picture of the airport's future but one we're immensely proud of! Martin Robinson, the CEO of AOPA, said: "We were pleased to make the award to Carlisle Lake District Airport because of its strategic importance for GA by location." https://tinyurl.com/ycufnf3p
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