Monarch 4

[racedo]

Originally Posted by runway30

The businesses I have been involved with have reviewed risk on a regular basis so we know what could be a threat to the business, how we are going to mitigate that risk and how we are going to react. If it all comes as a surprise then you are not doing your job. The external circumstances are the same for everybody, I don't see any other airline CEO wondering around with his head in his hands going woe is me, where has my business gone?

No matter how you think you are going to respond the reality will always be different and while many businesses can take one shock it is when this is multiplied x 3 or more that it then becomes an issue. Instead of tackling one fire you have multiple.

[Diverskii]

Out of interest, who flies the aircraft back to the lessors?

[Jonty]

And that is exactly what is happening, the problem is most of Monarchs passengers are not covered by it, so the government is picking up the tab to bring those passengers home.

[condor17]

I'd better dust off the Trident ops manuals from the Court line rescues in 1974 .
Almeria and Malaga are in the logbook .

Good luck and condolences to all Monarch Boys 'n Girls .

[chaps1954]

Usually people taken on by the lease company

[renort]

Project Olympia

Some insight into the timing of the plans for rescue flights can be found here and the links therein

http://http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/2247.pdf

This was pretty much in the bag on or around 25 Sept.

[HH6702]

So agency pilots

[Facts R Us]

Those that are Contract pilots or sometimes pilots that flew for the bankrupt Airline on a cash based deal between themselves and the lessor.

[silverelise]

Originally Posted by flight_mode

Just to clarify the question of why Monarch themselves aren’t performing the rescue flights. In law, once a company is declared insolvent and ceases trading as they did at 4am they are no longer permitted to engage in any trade whatsoever. Undertaking a revenue flight, or receiving a fee from the CAA to operate rescue flights would be against the rules. Besides that, who’s going to fuel and handle a Monarch aircraft at the moment?

G-ZBAT has flown BHX-OSR this evening, given the above explanation I'm interested to understand how this flight would have been operated

[Chidken Sangwich]

Originally Posted by Council Van

I have contacted the CAA complaining about this insensitive and disgusting tweet.

[email protected]

I really hope someone has a copy of that Twitter post. Whoever posted that from the CAA needs sacking.

[canberra97]

Diverskii

There was a series on TV a few years ago called REPO about how companies retrieve aircraft on behalf of the lessors, I'm sure your find it interesting and you can probably find it on YouTube.

[Chidken Sangwich]

Originally Posted by silverelise

G-ZBAT has flown BHX-OSR this evening, given the above explanation I'm interested to understand how this flight would have been operated

Lessor has paid the Aircraft debt to the Airport where the Aircraft ended up, hired a couple of contract pilots, paid cash for the fuel, filed a flight plan (probably using the Aircraft registration), then off you go.

It's as simple as that.

[renfrew]

Other aircraft have left the UK.
Presumably being returned to the lessor.

[Flightrider]

The CAA Twitter piece is extremely bad form and I can entirely sympathise with all of the Monarch guys for being very upset by it. Whoever is responsible ought to be summoned for the proverbial tea with no biscuits for that one.

[Chidken Sangwich]

Originally Posted by renort

Some insight into the timing of the plans for rescue flights can be found here and the links therein

http://http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/2247.pdf

This was pretty much in the bag on or around 25 Sept.

i hope the staff will be paid full wages for the days from their last pay packet up until Sunday if this was already known? How's it fair the public get a lift home (including those NOT covered by ATOL) and the stafff lose a weeks wages?

[SWBKCB]

Well if that isn't in exceptionally poor taste on behalf of the CAA..

For those that don't do or can't access Twitter, the CAA have tweeted as follows:

Spotted one of our rescue flights? Let us know by tweeting us a picture.

Ridiculous - glad to see they're getting the kicking they deserve

[Brigantee]

Wonder if greybul will sever the final ties and sell the engineering side which is a going concern , profitable and trading as normal.

Be nice if someone with long term interest could replace the likes of greybul

[Lew747]

FR24

Just looking on Flight Radar 24. Seems 2 Monarch aircraft are airborne out of Gatwick heading West/ Northwest bound. One nearing Shannon in Ireland. Any ideas what they are heading there for? Storage?

[tubby linton]

The staff have lost more than just pay. The company are not paying redundancy pay.

[Hotel Tango]

For those who want to keep an eye on where the Monarch fleet is moving to, I started a thread in the Spotters forum. Best there than here I think?